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Car-bicycle collision causes child’s death; was texting involved, or was it meth? UPDATE

Posted by on Monday, July 25th, 2011 @ 7:21 pm.

SUMNER---The little Lawrence County village of Sumner is reeling from the death this morning of a 7-year-old boy following a collision when a car allegedly ran a stop sign, striking the boy on his bicycle.

The name of the little boy was released today; it is David Kearby, whom we photographed during the 2009 Sumner Fall Festival.

The motorist is a well-known crim in the area: Chad Hayes, son of county board representative from Sumner's district Bonnie Hann.

Authorities are alleging that Hayes was traveling in the area of city hall this morning when there was a group of young people gathered their on their bicycles. Hayes is alleged to have accelerated instead of slowing down in the vicinity of the children, and he struck Kearby. Our sources tell us the boy was dragged several yards, and that when Hayes stopped, the bicycle was still under the van. Hayes' own children were reported to be in the van.

The boy, our sources are telling us, died in the ambulance en route to the hospital.

According to Lawrence County sources, Hayes is a chronic meth user, and it so happened that he was later seen at the hospital in cuffs, apparently there to have blood drawn to determine if he was under the influence of anything....if so, so much for this "victimless crime" thing the drug culture has been whining about to justify their addictions.

However, other sources are telling us that he was in the process of texting someone when he came barreling around the corner before allegedly striking the child...so it may have been a case of texting while driving, an increasingly common and very dangerous practice that we see entirely too often, especially when there's a vehicle coming right at us out on the highway (which happens daily).

And then again, it could be merely a case of BOTH meth use and texting.

We have received disturbing reports that indicate that Hann attempted to drive her son's van off at some point; as well, she is also alleged to have attempted to get inside the van after it was taken to impound. Reports are that none other than K9 officer Danny Ash prevented her from doing this, this act being another display of a new leaf several of Sheriff Russell Adams' deputies seem to have turned over as of late, in that they are attempting to uphold the law instead of letting 'connected' people attempt to violate it.

This story is ever evolving; Hayes hasn't been officially charged yet as of a day after the wreck (July 26), but he is being held while his bond is being considered. Preliminary charges are Aggravated DUI (a felony), Endangering the Life or Health of a Child (misdemeanor), Failure to reduce speed to avoid an accident and failure of driver to exercise due care (both traffic tickets)....a fairly pathetic array, considering that there is a deceased child now.

More as we get it.

 

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100 Comments for “Car-bicycle collision causes child’s death; was texting involved, or was it meth? UPDATE”

  1. Sweet4Sweets

    OMG!!!!There are no victimless of a crime. Period! I know you have to report things such as…but there is ALWAYS a victim or victims. My goodness…how terribly sad! =(

    • Lawrence County is absolutely saturated with meth. The greatest amount of whining we have about the “drug culture” comes from Lawrence first, then Richland. You can always tell where the dopers are from by their bitching. And the ones in Lawrence are the ones who say “meth heads don’t hurt anybody!”

      hm. Guess they’re wrong this time.

  2. Old Fart

    Ok You have convinced me not to text and drive. I don’t think I could live with myself killing anyone by doing this. I try not to but with an overloaded schedule it is hard to keep from it. However I do believe I will just tell the missuss that she wont get me while drivin and to anyone else who calls the same.
    Now on to the victimless drug theory…I can simply state that I know drugs hurt people and sometimes those using the drugs hurt people, however I just can’t see the need for these damn laws that prohibit me, someone who has never even tried dope, from getting something for my allergies like sudafed. I kno the theory behind it but the fact is the law doesn’t prevent the dopers one little bit. There is always a loophole and it is hard to stop someone who chooses to go down the stupid road of dope. I have known plenty who have done dope and it hurts the doper, the dopers kids, the dopers family, friends etc etc, but that doesn’t mean all the rest of us shuld suffer because adults acting like little children wanna play with the medicine cabinet! That bein said I hope a method can be found to curtail drug use the fact is you can’t help someone who doesn’t want help and whether or not that process hurts you or me doesn’t mean we need laws that could be used to throw all of us non dopers in jail much like the sudafed law!

    • Sweet4Sweets

      It’s all about self responsibility O.F. We have that..not everyone does. Know what I’m sayin? I know you do. I won’t even drive if I have to take a benadryl(sp).

      • Old Fart

        Exactly sweets but why can’t I go to the store and by a crate of sudafed like I culd five or six years ago? Cuz of the damn dopers, funny part is you can still go get the salt blocks for cattle at nearly any feed store and do the same thing in mass quantities and no one suspects a thing and yes there is salt blocks out there with pseudoehedrine in them same ingredient used in sudafed and meth. I just simply can’t theorize a law to bar the public as a whole from doing something that is legal like buyin a med for an ailment when the ones who are abusing the priviledge are finding loopholes to buy or steal the crap. I know this may have little to do with the article but it just burns my biscuits to see everyone held back and scrutinized just becuz a few welfare bum dopers wanna get high and be crazy! I guess u culd say im ranting but ain’t mad at anyone on here so please no one take offense to this and it is terrible about the 8yr old boy. I have three children and one of them is 8yrs of age so this story hit home with me

        • Sweet4Sweets

          Hey, babe! No offense taken here! I am honestly right here with ya on your way of thinking, I promise! They are our babies, no matter their ages…then we have grandbabies, we must watch out for! =(

  3. swimberly78

    Hmmm this had nothing to do with the driver, the other children at the scene said the little boy was showing off on his bike and rode out in front of the guy without looking and the driver had no time to even react. Sorry but this time you got it wrong.

    • Hmmm I guess the kids also were the ones who put the dope that he tested hot for in his blood at the hospital too, right?

      See what we put up with coming out of Lawrence, folks? It’s ALWAYS SOMEBODY ELSE’S FAULT.

      • Old Fart

        Guess we will have to make a law to keep the kids off their bikes so the dopers can be protected from any liability and all of us dumb parents can keep our kids safe…since it was the little boys fault! :p

    • Old Fart

      So since he was showing off in the road “as kids often do when traveling in groups” we should let Chad do dope and blame the kid and his parents for letting him be a kid? Are you really this stupid or did you forget your meds the past few days?

      • REALLY

        Very well said! Kids are suppose to be able to be kids and not have to worry about the behavior of adults! As an 8 yrs old they shouldn’t even know anything about drugs other than to “just say no”! Unfortunately, in the world to day more kids are exposed to it from before birth…..

    • Hannah

      You need to get a grip here, swimberly78. In the first place, a child is NEVER responsible for or at fault in ANY ACCIDENT. If you hit a child, and I don’t care if it is 100% unavoidable on your part, it IS STILL YOUR FAULT. The driver is supposed to always have their vehicles under control in any situation, but when it comes to a minor…that’s a situation that is already SET IN STONE.

      • Sweet4Sweets

        Absolutely right, Hannah! Many prayers for this little boys family and friends..Just so sad.

      • sanner90

        i have read this article i also listened to the scanner while it happened and heres my opinion ..was chad in the wrong from being on dope drinking or texting ?? yes was the child wrong for riding his bike in the street also yes but then again where were this childs parents ??i mean when my children were that age i was outside with them all the time and never were they allowed to ride in the road … so in my opinion yes chad should be charged but i also think the parents should be charged for not watching thier child as well as allowing this child to ride a bike in the street my prayers go out to his friends and the family still tho

    • lisa

      MAY GODBLESS YOU!!!! IT ISN’T THAT LITTLE BOYS FAULT. WOULD YOU SAY THAT IF THAT WAS YOUR CHILD (COME ON REALLY) :p :p

  4. REALLY

    So sad. My heart goes out to the family of those involved. Sending thoughts and prayers their way. Someone’s stupidity and selfishness caused an innocent child his life… With that being said…. unfortunately, I am not suprised to hear this. I went to school with Chad and he was heavily into drugs and alcohol then. I can only imagine how much worse his addiction is 10+ years later. Stuff like this makes my blood boil! GRRRRRR

  5. lisa

    THIS IS SO SAD FOR THE FAMILY THAT LOST THEIR LITTLE BOY. AS FAR AS WHO’S FAULT IT IS GOOODNESS SAKE I THOUGHT WHEN WE TO DRIVER EDUCATION IN SCHOOL WE WERE TAUGHT TO WATCH OUT FOR PEOPLE, CARS THAT DIDN’T STOP AND ANYTHING ELSE THAT COULD HAPPEN. YOU KNOW WATCH OUT FOR THE OTHER PERSON!!!!! THERE WAS A PRECIOUS LIFE LOST YESTERDAY THAT FAMILY WILL NEVER HAVE HIM BACK. AND CHAD’S KIDS AND THE KIDS THAT WERE WITH THE LITTLE BOY WILL BE DEVISTATED FOR LIFE, THEY WILL ALWAYS REMEBER THIS ACCIDENT. I JUST HOPE AND PRAY THEY GET SOMEONE TO HELP THEM AND THE FAMILY OF THE LITTLE BOY. THIS IS JUST SO SAD AND SUCH A STUPID ACT WHICH COULD HAVE BEEN AVOIDED BY JUST STAYING HOME AND NOT DRIVING A VEHICLE. HE WAS JUST A LITTLE BOY TRYING TO ENJOY HIS SUMMER VACATION. I REMEMBER WHEN SUMNER WAS A SAFE COMMUNITY FOR KIDS BUT I GUESS THAT IS LONG GONE AND THATS TOO BAD. AGAIN I AM SO SORRY FOR YOUR LOSS AND YOU ARE IN MY PRAYERS, GOD BLESS YOU AT THIS TIME OF NEED.

  6. O.F. I know a pharmecutcal tec that works for wally world and you would be shocked at the people she has to turn away for sudafed,They already got there months supply and come back for more.And always have a reason like someone else is useing there drivers lic or i didnt get them this month.I have heard that a meth head will pay $50.00 for a box.
    I use sudafed and a box will last me 3 to 4 months,I also use starter fluid and carbarator cleaner but i have to make sure i dont buy any of them at the same time.In the long run it will end up costing the tax payers because of drug addicts.

    • Old Fart

      Aint it ridiculous tho we can’t do anything at all without some form of government control…it seems as tho we will have to get some sort of permit to pass gas and if we exceed the limits of that permit we will have to pay a fine…just a sarcastic statement but the way things are headed I wouldn’t be shocked to see it happen. I wish we could get some lawmakers in that have common sense and not try to play God! Man will do stupid things but no law is gonna stop it…a bullet might tho! Lol! Anyhow it is a God awful shame this little boy was exposed to such a stupid, ridiculous act and as already stated an avoidable tragedy. We as a whole need to take on these scumbags and rid our towns of them one by one so our kids can be safe and our society wont have to be overburdened with stupid laws

      • Chad has not been charged and he probably WON’T be charged because of Bonnie…..because that’s the way things go in Lawrence. But he DID have dope in his system at the blood draw. He was there in cuffs. ISP is looking into this, which means that there will be pressure put on Lisa to file charges….so she’ll bow out, Rollover Rands will be appointed, Chad will be charged with a simple DUI (nothing related to a death, that was just an accident) and he’ll get probation. Life goes on except for the little boy, which, we learned last night, is a little kid we pictured in a photo layout at one of the fests in 2009. What a nightmare for his family.

  7. swimberly78

    I didnt mean it I guess how I typed it. I think this was something horrific that everyone involved will never get past. I came home and climbed in bed with my four year old and silently prayed that she never gets big enough to want to be out of our supervision. I know that is stupid but I can’t imagine losing my child. But not everything is about drugs. And I dont believe he tested positive for anything since he went home from the hospital. Wouldn’t they take him to chair for murder then? Of course this is Lawrence County so who knows. I just meant it isn’t always what it seems. I have almost hit many kids in Lawrenceville. I never drive over 25 because kids around here don’t watch for cars or look in any direction before riding across a street. They dont stop for stop signs. I think they need to teach them safety and that they are breakable. Again this isn’t saying the little boy deserved to die. This is the horrible but a preventable tragedy

  8. Dennis J. Bridwell

    swimberly78, you might want to call the Lawrence County Sheriff’s Department at (618) 943-5766 and ask if Chad Hayes is in jail. He is. I don’t know why you want to come on here and spread false information but you really need to get things straight before posting BS like that.

  9. LITTLEDAVE

    Just to clarify, i am the mother of the kids who where. David was not showing off on his bike he did nothing wrong. This “accident” could have been avoided had the proper caution been taken. So ppl can say what they want,DAVID DID NOTHING WRONG. As for being charged he was being a 7 yrd old boy during the summer, as he should been.And some peice of crap took that away from. and he is being charged for what he did but no amount of time will be enuff and it will not bring David back.As for the kids they have been threw enuff and dont need to here all the stuff going around, and they cant get away from it. Thank u all for the kind comment and prayers for the family.As for the others get a life and learn what ur talikng about b4 u go putting lies on the situation.

    • Old Fart

      Anyone who blames you is the bigger fool. A kid will be a kid. If you look up in tthe comments I stated I have 3 kids and boy sometimes they can get the best of you and be so so onery. This time was not your kids fault. As a parent I can say this is something no parent should have to face but because of some idiot driving under the influence of something killed an innocent child and hurt a family his friends and could probably say the community. All I can say is you are in my thoughts and prayers and I hope you can find the strength to make it thru from day to day as I know this has been and continues to be difficult for you. I simply don’t kno what to say but please kno not everyone blames you….some of us have common sense and blame the idiot behind the wheel.

  10. LITTLEDAVE

    And for those who say he shuld not have been alone, he wasnt he was with 5 other kids the oldest being 13. They were going to the city hall to check on a recycling project they wanted to start.They were being told that it was approved.It went threw and it is now a memorial for David.Since that was the reason they were there.So for those who dont know, now u do so maybe just maybe David will be remembered for the good he was doin and not the lies that are around. agin thank u :love:

    • Sweet4Sweets

      Honey, David did not do anything wrong at all! He was just being a kid!! You don’t need to defend what they were all doing, although I understand your need to feel like you do. Anyone(most of us here)who have a heart, knows he was just being a lil boy! May God bless and continue to keep you all safe and give you comfort. It just really is so sad for everyone. Take care.

  11. LITTLEDAVE

    DID YOU KNOW IT IS STANDARD PROCEDURE THAT WHEN SOMEONE IS CHARGED WITH AGGREVATED DUI, ONE OF THE TERMS OF THEIR BAIL IS SUPPOSE TO BE THAT THEY CANNOT DRIVE. WONDER WHY IT WASNT THAT WAY FOR CHAD? GUESS IT IS WHO YOU KNOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :p

  12. LITTLEDAVE

    OH AND THIS IS DAVES GRANDMA, NOT HIS MOM. HOPE NO ONE ATTACKS HER AGAIN WITH THEIR CRUEL AND MEAN WORDS. SHE IS BEATING HERSELF UP ENUFF

    • Old Fart

      I admire you for standing up on here or elsewhere. As for Chad he’s a conceited self centered little prick. Hope he gets some of what he deserves. Of course nothing will bring your precious grandson back but I cant stand to let someone walk free if they did something like this. I admit I know few details but your grandchild was doing what all children his age do. That was being a kid and playing. That is no ones fault. The only one at fault is the driver who was under the influence of one or more substances and got behind the wheel. I know as a parent his mother must be shaken terribly by this and its a pain no one should ever have to bear. I trully feel for you and your family. I know my words probably bring little comfort but please know that not everyone is heartless and not everyone is blaming the parents on this. It was the careless/intoxicated driver who is to blame and I hope he is punished even though no man made punishment would ever be enough to take away the pain you all must be feeling right now. God Bless you all and I hope somehow you all can overcome the pain and sorrow that you all feel. I am not real good at wording so please overlook me if something sounds wrong or bad as I dont intend for it to.

  13. LITTLEDAVE

    THANK YOU FOR THE KIND WORDS. IT HAS REALLY HELPED KAT TO READ FROM OUTSIDE PEOLE , WHO ARE NOT FOR ONE SIDE OR THE OTHER,THAT SHE WAS JUST ALLOWING HER SON TO BE A CHILD. I NEVER REALLY KNEW HOW VERY CRUEL AND MEAN SPIRITED SOME PEOLE COULD BE UNTIL THIS HAPPENED.WE REALLY ARE NOT ON A HATE CAMPAIGHN TOWARD CHAD. WE JUST WANT HIM TO BE PUNISHED ACCORDING TO THE LAW FOR HIS PART IN THIS. AND NO MATTER HOW THEY TRY TO PUT A SPIN ON THIS , HE WAS EXTREMELY CARELESS AND NEGLIGENT AND SHOULD BE HELD ACCOUNTABLE. =( =(

  14. Old Fart

    Considering all that has happened it was the least I could do. I am upset anytime I read a story or hear about a young child being hurt or killed in any fashion. When the issue includes an intoxicated person or someone who intentionally hurtsw a child physically or sexually it makes me furious. Chad made choices to use the substances which intoxicated him, then to get behind the wheel. That is entirely on him. If I was to take off and see a child in the road I would also have to hit the brakes and stop or face the same scrutiny. Now I know accidents can happen but when drugs or alcohol is used its a very punishable offense and I am with you, I hope he is punished to the fullest extent. It is my understanding he has gotten by with way to much. I hope the judge in charge of this case understands this and considers all of that when sentencing him. I pray for all of your strength through that part to as the trial will be lengthly if he doesnt plea out before then. At any rate just take care and keep hangin on. I don’t know your daughter by name and for now I dont need to but tell her the same and to keep her chin up. I know it aint worth much but goodness if you cant have a heart about something like this you must be cold…even me as an outsider.

  15. LITTLEDAVE

    jack in all the papers they had dave parents name listed. his mom is kathryn littlejohn and his dad is mike kearby. yes that mike. some people have used daves death as a smear and hate thing towards him not caring about kathryns feelings. in order to get at mike they attacked dave and kathryn and that is a very sad thing. they didnt even have the balls to go at mike just mother and son. :p

    • @LittleDave: I figured he was Mike Kearby’s kid, hence the attacks. Also prolly the reason why they left it off online versions, so we wouldn’t immediately know. We don’t read their papers…complete waste of .75…..

  16. LITTLEDAVE

    and to old fart i hope you didnt take offense at the outsider thing. i meant no disrespect. just couldnt think of the right word. we have our friends and family telling kat it wasnt her fault and chad and bonnies friends saying it was daves and that kat should be charged for letting ride his bike. it was just refreshing to hear it from a non partial person. 😉

    • Old Fart

      I took no offense, knew exactly what u meant. To some degree it was accurate wording tho I am an outsider in the sense this wasn’t my child, but trust me you would have to call me worse than an outsider to hurt my feelins lol. If I had the opportunity to do so I would tell Kat face to face it wasn’t her fault. I am sure she woulda kept him in that day if she would have thought he was gonna be injured but if she was at fault there would be many other parents charged with these unfortunate circumstances…it was not her fault she was letting her son be a kid

    • Sweet4Sweets

      LITTLEDAVE, O.F. would never take any offense to anything such as that,IMO. I can say, I only know what kind of person he is by reading his comments on here and he seems to have a very good heart and a genuine soul. There are many on here who can imagine the pain you all must still be feeling that will never go completely away! My hope and prayer is that people will quit blaming Kat for letting her precious little boy be just that…a little boy! This is horrible enough as it is! Kat or her son are not to blame! About 18 years ago, I watched one of our neighborhood’s 8 year old little boy die in the driveway next to mine after being hit by a car. I had only been in for about 15 minutes with my younger two after having lunch to put them down for a nap. My oldest went back outside, came back in and asked me if Phillip could come over to play. I told her not until I could be out there with them because she already had one friend out there. It wasn’t no time before she and her friend, who was Phillips cousin came running in the back door screaming and crying telling me he had been hit by a car. I had them stay inside while I ran out there. It’s an experience I have never forgotten and hate to think about to this very day! If only I would have let him come over to play in those 15 minutes while I was inside….. =( I felt just as guilty as the lady who hit him did…maybe more so! He was such a sweetheart and had such a sweet smile that just made ya love him! I pray you all will hold onto the sweetest moments with your precious little David. NO ONE can ever take those away!!!!

      • Old Fart

        I would never take offense to what she said! She was nice about things but telling her opinion and she wasnt jabbin me with the word outsider. I am an outsider to her situation and she would have been an outsider if this had been my child. She told facts and I just wanted her to know I backed her! Sweets I can say for a fact me and you are not cold hearted and we could probably sympathize with this situation. Although I havent personally experienced it I have seen plenty who have. All I have done is pulled up to a traffic crash where two 17 yr olds were intoxicated and pulled onto a highway into the path of an elderly couple. The elderly couple was scraped up a little bit but the two boys were killed instantly. Unfortunately one of them also was beheaded as a result of the wreckless driving. It sticks with me and I know their family and friends probably still wish they could have them around. These types of accidents regardless of who’s fault it is or was doesnt change the fact its very traumatizing for those left behind and for those who drive up on it. I had nightmares for quite a while about this accident and like you dont like to talk about it much but for this situation I am using it as a reference so that you will know I am no stranger to the rain! It is something we never forget and perhaps in ways it made me a stronger more understanding person. Personally I wished I had been elsewhere at the time as it was horrifying. To the family of this accident I trully just hope and pray for them that the deepest part of their suffering can subside soon enough and that Kat will not continue to blame herself. I can sympathize with her tho as I have often thought if this ever happened to one of my own children I would wanna crawl in the casket with them as it would be difficult to live without any of them. Anyone who has kids knows what I am talkin about and unfortunately for LITTLEDAVE and Kat they know this feeling all to well.

        • LITTLEDAVE

          thank you both for sharing your stories with me it really helped. its been kind of a ruff day with the kids going back to school and all.i have lived with my daughter grandkids since their births and im not dealing =( to well. me and kat were both there and watched as they tried to save david life.now i can barely close my eyes without seeing that.so it was comforting to know that in time it will stop. i truly thank you all for your kind words.

          • Old Fart

            Not a problem and take care of yourselves. Keep venting that can help to…maybe something you can throw and not hurt anyone or anything…may not work for you but its good stresss relief if ya need it….wishin you the best but you have been thru the darkest alley. Still can’t imagine trully if I would be as strong as you have been if I were in your shoes

          • Sweet4Sweets

            You’re welcome! I’m sure it is a very difficult day for you since school started. Remember what O.F. said, venting can help alot, especially to people who are neutral and not immediately close to the situation. I will say though, I hope Chad is held accountable because he was under the influence of drugs!! Also remember, there is no time limit on the grieving process or how you grieve. It is a very, very sad thing for all of you.. =( I will continue to keep all of you in my prayers..

  17. LITTLEDAVE

    hello its me again. grandma kinda having a ruff time today. tomorro is the prelimenary hearing on chads case and im all a mess. i have to go or i would feel like ive abandon dave. but honestly i dont know how im going to get thru it. i lose it everytime chad drives that damn van by our house or i see it in town as it is. just wondering if anyone had any suggestions on how to cope with this mess. =(

    • Old Fart

      LITTLEDAVE, I can’t give you any advice on how or what you should be feeling right now. I only know if this was my child/grandchild I would be ready to kill him! I hope you don’t act on that thought as it would only mess up your life and familys life even further! I can tell you talking helps and so does time, but that’s easier said than done! I can encourage that you talk to anyone who maybe having the same issues and also to those with drug or alcohol problems. You might be surprised of what you can accompliish being in the situation you currently are in! Its just an idea and so what if you cry when talking…just shows how bad drugs and alcohol can affect a family!

    • Sweet4Sweets

      LITTLEDAVE, You can only cope with it to the best of your ability. What you and your family is going through is a horrible life changing tragic event. Listen to O.F. He is wise beyond his years and has helped me through ALOT just by listening to me when I’m having a bad day! I pray the best outcome for your family!!!! And as O.F. said, CRY when it gets to ya. It does help somewhat. I’ve read crying has seven different positive effects for the human body!!! Take care & no you’re not alone as long as you come here to let out anything you feel you need to….

    • Sweet4Sweets

      ooops…Know (not no)you’re not alone

  18. Old Fart

    Sweets either word of know/no made perfect sense where you used it (IMHO). I hope she gets through all of this…it is extremely difficult I am sure of! Although I have not personally had this issue arise, I daily worry what I would do if it did. The worst I have dealt with is my kids being in the presence of drugs and no law enforcement would do anything about it! I finally resolved the situation myself telling this individual that if the use continues around my kids I will be handling matters my own self…luckily for me the crap stopped and no more talks were needed. I ended up telling this person that if they wanted to dope outside their home while my kids werent there I couldn’t do much but by golly if my kids witnessed one more such incident that I would come and the gloves would be off! I can certainly understand how LITTLEDAVE feels for her grandchild and children, as a parent its natural. I just hope she has better law enforcement in her area and that they handle the situation with respect towards the victims in this issue. No mercy should be showed to someone who is under the influence of any substance while driving down a public road! See LITTLEDAVE sometimes I still need to vent and yes it helps just saying things even if you don’t act on them. Of course watch what you say in public but you are welcome to email me privately if you so choose and say whatever you wish, with no fear of retribution oldiusfartius@gmail.com However I know you may want to address some concerns on here but if you feel like ranting and venting feel free…Im willing to listen anytime. I can only imagine what you are going through and it makes me sick just placing myself in your situation. Keep your head up and give encouragement to anyone around you, especially when it comes to how precious and short life is as well as anything to do with the effects of drugs and alcohol. Jack and Ang are good to talk to on this as well and Sweets is also good at talkin on this but I cant volunteer them although I feel as though they would listen to ya as well. You have my personal email and may use it anytime you wish! Take Care and God Bless!

    • LITTLEDAVE

      thank you all so much. it really does help just to know someone is listening. court wasnt so bad at least they had the decency to waive the prelimenary hearing. so we didnt have to relive it all. but just seeing him and his mom looking so smug was about all i could stomache. i just will never understand people like them. anyway now its on its way to jury trial. im sure you all will hear from me. i cant really say outloud what im feeling at home. it upsets my daughter. so you guys really help me. so once again thanks for being here

      • Old Fart

        I understand fully and sometimes an outside shoulder is a good way to go. Things like this (for obvious reasons) have all of your family troubled. Sometimes talking to them helps and other times it makes matters worse. It is quite common to have this problem. I had a problem in my life a few years back that I was unable to talk to any of my family about without getting into it and making matters worse. This problem sickened them as bad as it did me. While my problem was much less in severity than the one you are going through, trust me I know what you mean when you say it helps to talk. I know I keep saying this but I trully can’t imagine what all must be running through your mind right now. I already told you in another comment that if I was in your shoes that Murder would probably enter my thoughts. I also stated that I hoped you didn’t act on those thoughts as it would only upset your family even more as it would obviously cost you time in a prison. I do know the thoughts have to be troubling and as always if no one else will listen I assure you I would! This is so sickening and a lump comes to my throat putting the mere thought of this happening to one of my own children. I have seen tragic accidents that involved drugs, alcohol and death. It is something that will probably stick with me until I am fortunate enough to catch alzheimers and somehow erase it from my mind. Yes I know poor timing for being a joker, but listen, I know several who feel your pain and can sympathize with you. Please feel free to shoot me a message or email anytime. I hope he takes a plea of some sort so you all dont have to relive this ordeal anymore than you already have. I am not wishing a good plea deal for him but do hope he takes some plea as to avoid the trial which will put you through all this agony again and again. Truth be told there is no punishment severe enough for what he did in your eyes I am sure. Not to put words in your mouth but as I said I can only imagine what you are thinking and if this were me in your shoes I would say nothing short of a firing squad but maybe you are somehow more forgiving than me in ways. I am glad to listen and of course offer a reply but I trully hope anything I say shows sympathy towards you and not intended to hurt you in any way. This is just horrible and I cant find any better wording to use to describe what I am saying to you. Hang in there you are doing good so far. You are probably doing better with this than I would and I mean that as a compliment. Take Care and God Bless You and your family.

      • Personally, I think it’s awful that they waived prelim….I know you all didn’t want to hear it, but WE DID, because prelims give you an early idea of what the defense is going to be. We were there and wanted to hear what inane excuse they were going to give for why Chad did what he did, and why they believe the charges should just be dropped and he should be allowed to go on with his life. He is repulsive and so are all the people who have ‘supported’ him. But I noticed they pulled all the stupid comments from Sheila’s Facebook.

        • Old Fart

          I see both sides of that coin Jack. I can certainly see why it would be interesting to see what the defense had to say for its scumbag of a client. On the other hand I can see that the family has had enough and it would be a tough thing to live through again, which may happen anyway if this does go to trial. I know I hate plea bargains as much as anyone else but that is the only hope the family has of not reliving this anymore than they already have. It is simply sickening that it ever happened to begin with. BTW while I am talkin to ya…great story in the fresh on the stands edition. I believe you know which story I am referring too!

  19. Old Fart

    Jack I am willing to bet the words of that column will make certain ones maddened to the point they may say something that makes Hanks comment about the Prez seem like a compliment!

  20. LITTLEDAVE

    hello again. just wnted to say a few things. first i kinda wanted to hear what there defense was going to be, but then i think they are just trying to wait it out to get a plea bargain , because he has no defense and blaming dave wont work either and he knows it. i just hope the special prosecutor doesnt let him off easy and im pretty sure that wont happen either. he seems to be a fair lawyer and wants to do what right. i also want to let everyone know that he finally lost his license and mommy is pissed off.as for me im just relieved. because if he thinks he did nothing wrong the every child who gets on a bike is in danger. and i dont really care who i make mad by saying that. im intitled to my opnion.but if you see him driving maybe you could make a phone call. 😀

  21. LITTLEDAVE

    the only pic i have ever seen of him is on facebook. so far he has his new girlfriend drive him around. you know i really feel sorry the most for his kids. he makes them get back in that van and ride in it all the time. i would think that would be awful for them. but then i believe he is a truly awful man. i hope he has enuff sense to get them kids some counseling. it is really helping ours.

  22. Old Fart

    Well I was meaning if we had a mugshot, as I would not know this disgusting person if I saw him

    • LITTLEDAVE

      acually im almost the same as you. unfortunately when you see one skinny bald heade3d piece of shit youve seen then all. the only way i know its him is when he is in the van or at court. now his mom , i would know her anywhere. but yhen i blame her almost as much as him. she has gotten him out of all of his troubles and if she had just let him be accountable for his action in the past then maybe this wouldnt have happened. when either of my daughters get in trouble they stand up and take their punishment. its what ive taught them just like my mother taught me. everyone makes mistakes and bad choices one time or another. its how you own up to them that makes you who you are. i dont think chad has a mugshot because he has always got by with anything hes done. its always someone else fault, but i dont think that is going to happen this time. all i really want is for him to get the punishment he deserves and to be a real man and own up to what he did, because no matter what he says outloud he knows inside exactly what he did.

      • Old Fart

        Well you are absolutely correct but trust me its what’s under the hair that counts, and the raising of course. The hair itself or absence thereof can lead to one hell of a sunburn though!

        • LITTLEDAVE

          so rite so true. thanks for making me laugh. i do it so little anymore.when the girls were teens and the boys started shaving their heads i AD A HARD TIME TELLING WHICH ONES THEY WERE DARTNG. NOW THAT IM OLDER I JUST CANT REMEMBER PEOPLES FACES. BUT THATS OK WITH ME. GIVESME A GOOD EXCUSE TO NOT TALK TO MOST PEOPLE. I USED TO BE A VERY OUTGOING PERSON. I WOULD TALK TO ANYONE. NOW I DONT. NEVER KNOW IF IT IS SOMEONE WHO HAS SAID SOMETHING ABOUT DAVE OR MY FAMILY OR IF ITS SOMEONE WHO THINKS CHAD IS A GOOD OL BOY. I HATE BEING LIKE THIS TOO, BECAUSE I HAVE ALWAYS ENJOYED LIFE AND DID MY BEST TO TRY TO MAKE PEOPLE SMILE. PEOPLE SAY TO ME THEY MISS THE OLD BEV AND SO DO I.

  23. Old Fart

    @ LITTLEDAVE,
    The laugh is on me. I have had my share of imperfections but do not know you personally nor do I know this Chad or Dave Fella! I only see a hurting family who said about being bald. The brains is what counts and as long as I wear a hat I can think straight. Not all of us are bad people and I have had plenty to be bitter about but trust me being bitter isn’t forbidden in this or any situation but it generally hurts only yourself. I would be bitter to the one who wronged you and not let the rest of the world affect me. Yes I know easier said than done and my problem affected my freedom for a period your problem affected the loss of life of a dear precious child. I certainly in no way say your situation is likened to mine but I would just simply say that being bitter at everyone as you claim is not going to help anyone out. Holding it in doesnt help either (Trust me on that one)! I have had many experiences none which hold a candle to yours but I do hope you rise above this and do not let it conquer you. Your precious Grandson would not want his Grandmother crying over him and worried to death. I know it is hard to accept and be told but it is true as well.
    As I have said I know none of you that are involved I dont even know your grandsons name, I just know it must be a trully emotional roller coaster ride for you. Any chance I get to make you laugh or forget about your troubles is certainly wonderful news. I do all I can and wish you to continue to heal from this situation, (if thats even totally possible) and the very best of luck to all of your family. I dont think Chad is a good ole boy and well if I dont know you I couldnt have said anything bad about you. So theres my heart on the line and story to follow. I hope like always I havent said anything that offends you and hope you see I am speaking from experience on other issues.

    • LITTLEDAVE

      you have not offended me at all. and i hope i didnt you about the bald thing. guess i should explain. its just that the younger guys keep their heads shaved and alot of them look alike. chad is for the most part bald so sometimes i see someone who looks like him and im not so sure. he really has no distinct features that stand out. i didnt mean all bald men where pieces of crap, just chad.dave is my grandson that he ran over. and im not really bitter with everyone, just unsure. its hard to tell anymore who is friend or foe so i just stay on my guard all the time. i dont like feeling this way bit i cant help it.my daughter and i have been far from perfect and we too have both lost some of our freedom from making bad choices. but we did learn from it and now make better choices. i just wish chad had done the same.or at least let daves death not be in vein. i hope that chad will face the truth in this and seiously get the help he needs and not just go through the motionns because he is court ordered to do it like he has done in the past.

      • Old Fart

        You didnt offend me in the least, I woulda said the same thing if I had hair and was in your shoes lol! Hell I might have said it anyways. Look at some of the corrupt lawmen in our area…most have little to no hair. One was featured playing at the Geff Frontier days and the other…well lets just say he is in the print edition and leave it at that for now. Both are vile pieces of crap in my opinion and they are using their power as lawmen to disobey every law they can and even commit acts of fraud, in my opinion. If you are able to ride a motorcycle and kick at dogs you should be able to work not collect workers compensation and then go work for your buddy who has bailed you out of all your troubles such as one is doing now!

      • Sweet4Sweets

        LITTLEDAVE, It is hard to trust people nowadays, but please know that you are safe venting on here! You can’t hold it in honey or it will eat you alive. As far as being perfect? No one is, but as you said, you learned from your bad choices and that’s what matters!

        • Old Fart

          What also matters is the fact that she is quite upset at the moment but I can tell she will rise above this, but it just takes some time. In this case I would guarantee you I would require alot of time, and not sure if I could be on here talking about things or if I would be holding it in, but if you want the healing to begin and the hurting to end, you have to start talking about things and letting it out, just as Sweets said. I know this is a little more public than say a letter or a phone call is but its a start. You are doing well at holding up, although I suspect you have your moments, but as I said, considering what you have went through, it is expected you would be having a difficult time.

          • Sweet4Sweets

            O.F., you are such an awesome person to talk to! You helped me greatly last pm…..silly guy…lol… 🙂

          • Sweet4Sweets

            Oooops, you told me not to tell anyone that! 🙂

          • Old Fart

            Its ok according to Smarty no one listens to us anyway, although it appears like most of his articles in the Wayne County Depressed, that he could be sadly mistaken. By the way I just told you not to tell your hubby that I didn’t charge for those types of services…of course you can tell we talked. I enjoyed it as well, and glad it helped ya. Anytime ya need to feel free, the phone is always on, if its to late keep ringin it til i wake up and ignore the first few sentences I qoute. LOL

          • Sweet4Sweets

            O.F., you’re such a hoot, but I won’t tell anyone, okay? Silly guy!!! 😉

          • Old Fart

            if you do call 618-842-2662 and tell Smarty Marty David that he is a spineless coward as he wasnt intending on fighting me that day he only wanted to act tough. Sure he will figure out who I am but heck it aint like he doesnt already know. Tell them and see if he puts my name in his paper like he said he was going to do. Tell him it wasnt for something crazy as he said it would be but for something good. I bet he wouldnt have the balls to tell anything good that I ever do. If he did I bet it would be less than a one by two space! Hes nothing but a spineless coward with a pen.

          • “Smarty Marty”…see? Tommy Mathews should have hired me 11 years ago when he had the chance.

          • Old Fart

            Sweets when you call tell him what Jack said to LOL
            Oh wait I will see him in person that would be much better than a phone call. The look will be priceless! 🙂

          • Old Fart

            Ya first he hires the cop gone bad, who nearly murdered a friend in a stolen car traveling in excess of 100mph then hitting an old concrete culvert (crack still visible) then just basically lost his job, now that Braden Willis moved on to Carmi he has Smarty Marty David working there who thinks calling me a Dumbass and an Asshole is appropriate behavior in public. Well he just showed his ass really good and I hate to say it but I am gonna keep mouthing him until he either faces me or apologizes like a real man. I have this feeling I will be making lots of comments though as he is a spineless coward, otherwise he would have tried to punch me.

  24. Old Fart

    Mr Moderator would you be so kind as to send the message I sent to Sweets

  25. Old Fart

    Now Smarty David can be mad at me as he often misqoutes things and threatens people to a fight in public places, although he wants them to throw the first punch, cuz he is a coward in disguise! He is a no body and always will be if he doesn’t change his ways. BTW while I am at slammin dumba$$es I might as well say Rick White is about as Brainless as Smarty although his wife is the one who does the talking unless he has a gun on his side, then he gets mouthy!

  26. Dennis J. Bridwell

    Well, I sent Bonnie Hann a message on Facebook unrelated to this and got a nasty, crappy reply saying she is “particular who she talks to”.
    Will someone please point out where I spoke an untruth in any of my posts or made accusations?
    Unless it is shown that I lied here, I would say Bonnie Hann has a problem with someone telling the truth! Is this an attribute we want in a member of our County Board?

    • Old Fart

      Might as well elect Brain Oneill to your board if thats the best you got running! 8)

    • Old Fart

      Dennis, I apologize for that remark as it was intended to be candid. I can clearly see it was not and to any and all who were or might be offended I am truly sorry. I wasn’t thinking before I spoke or in this case typed. You have done nothing to offend me and I in turn hope I have not done anything to offend you but just in case I do want to say I am sorry.

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