Insane Clown Posse PLANS to file suit against FBIPosted by Jack Howser on Saturday, August 11th, 2012 @ 10:11 pm.
All day long, we were bombarded with the news that members of the group Insane Clown Posse, who managed to coin the term “Juggalo” from a song about “the Juggla” (jugular; nothing like butchering the English language), were “filing suit against the FBI for listing the Juggs as a ‘gang,’” this official designation coming last Fall when the feebs decided to include the ICP fans in their annual listing.
Last Fall, we thought it was silly to label such a group of fans as a “gang”…mainly because such labeling is so subjective, and the next step the feds would likely take would be to label decent political activists as some kind of subversives.
However, last night at the Gathering of the Juggalos in Hardin County, the annual rockfest that generally trashes the county and makes restrooms at area Walmarts dangerous to enter, ICP made their big announcement, featured here in Detroit Free Press (and if you’ve seen Detroit lately, you’ll know how utterly insignificant that major city has really become in recent years):
Insane Clown Posse will file suit against the FBI to clear its audience’s name, the group told cheering fans Friday during the Gathering of the Juggalos.
The FBI in October described ICP’s fans – Juggalos – as a “a loosely organized hybrid gang” and included them in the 2011 National Gang Threat Assessment report.
The designation has led to police harassment of Juggalos and hurt ICP’s multimillion-dollar merchandise operation in Farmington Hills, said the group’s Violent J.
Retailers now deem the group’s clothing line to be “gang apparel,” he said, and at least one – the nationwide Hot Topic chain – has stopped selling ICP goods. Insurance costs for the group’s concerts have gone “through the roof,” he said.
“They’re punishing fans for being Juggalos,” said Violent J, who described the FBI’s labeling as unprecedented in music history. “This is the government’s way of telling us what you can listen to, what you can wear.”
The lawsuit announcement came during an hour-long briefing with several hundred fans at the 13th Gathering of the Juggalos, the annual fan festival that has drawn thousands of partyers to a campground in rural Illinois.
The news prompted an ecstatic crowd roar and chants of “Fa-mi-ly! Fa-mi-ly!”
There’s only one thing that caught our attention over this.
THEY HAVEN’T DONE IT YET.
Upon hearing this all day long, and being deliriously busy with fests (because it’s THAT time of year, too), I was hoping I could go to the federal website, PACER, log in and get into a case file that has “Insane Clown Posse” or “Juggalos” as complainant, and “Federal Bureau of Investigation” or some such as “defendant.” I could read the legalese, break it down, see exactly what ICP is claiming (other than Hot Topic not carrying their specific line of clothing….which looks like every OTHER line of clothing at Hot Topic, I might add) the feds have caused problems for them over as regards this designation.
But it’s not there. Because the “big announcement” isn’t that it’s been FILED. It’s that they INTEND TO FILE. Big difference, folks. You can sue a rock. But that rock isn’t going to answer your complaint, filed depositions, come to court, etc. You MIGHT be able to sue the feds. But this whole thing seems so arbitrary, I’m seriously wondering if it isn’t just a publicity stunt. Or some kind of absent-minded step to “let the feds know that we’re pissed.” That sounds about the speed of these….clowns.
I’m sorry, but…we can’t take this seriously. Because, like we said in the original article from last fall: the feds have it backwards. Their designation isn’t toward a group of people who form up around a band, then commit gang activity (crimes). This is about a bunch of people with criminal mentality and activity, gravitating toward a type of music and attitude that matches their own. The criminal element of ICP fans are, by and large, very limited. They are the wayward, errant undesirable that comes to be a part of this “group,” just like EVERY “group” has undesirables (let’s take a quick look at police. If every department were judged by people like Dee Burgin, JJ McVaigh, Harv Fenton, Danny Ash, Richie Cravens, etc, would that be fair? No. Same with ICP/Juggalos). It doesn’t mean that the whole group should be labeled, shut down (which is a violation of the First Amendment, actually) and done away with. The good cops would argue that. The good ICP fans would argue it fairly, as well.
So we know this is a “big deal” considering it was announced at the Gathering. But really…it’s not a big deal until it’s filed and action gets going. Sorry to let you down. But we deal with this kind of civil court stuff every day. And until those papers get to flying, and judges get to signing…it’s just not as big as everyone’s making it out to be.
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