Juggalosers filling up the Hogrock campgrounds: UPDATE w/PHOTOS
CAVE-IN-ROCK—Already, the creatures known as the Juggalos are converging on Tim York’s private campgrounds, Hogrock, in Hardin County—and, according to the locals, they’ve begun creating the annual problems inherent with the kind of event that “The Gathering” of the Juggalos, fans of the wannabe rap group Insane Clown Posse, is known for.
The gathering of the washed-up, has-been rappers....
We’ve been down to the campgrounds entrance (we didn’t go in, and you’ll see why, in a minute, that that was a good idea) just to check it out, and it is indeed a booniegoonie place. And, what we observed as we were leaving (at about 12:45 pm) was why we’re glad we didn’t take the one-lane in to the entrance just out of curiosity: a huge line of vehicles came speeding down to the Hogrock turnoff, traveling entirely too fast for the type of road they were on (explaining why we weren’t able to get pics or vids), with plates from every imaginable area of the country, and with a huge RV leading the way. The RV had New York plates, as did the white stretch limousine about eight cars back. That line of cars was followed by another set of cars also traveling too fast for conditions (narrow, winding roads and alternating gravel and blacktop). One van, driven by a woman appearing too old and pudgy to be a Juggalette (but one can never tell) almost drove off the wooden bridge that crosses the turn to the campgrounds, as she was absolutely speeding to the area.
The entrance to the campgrounds
We stopped at the work camp (prison) up Highway 1 to get some pics of the mobile command unit set up there for response to any and everything that might occur this weekend. There, we spoke with the very pleasant Captain Harry Masse, Commander of Illinois State Police District 22 in Ullin. Masse had an awesome attitude toward The Gathering, telling us he’s been working the event since 2005. While they’ve had a death every year (from various different causes, including heat stroke and dope, although there was one violent death that he could recall), Masse said that authorities don’t see The Gathering as this big Armageddon event it’s often expected and made out to be; it’s just a routine thing they do annually, with its own inherent problems.
We didn't go up to the left, because we're not vendors, staff, OR artists. We're anti-fans.
Most of the problems stem from drugs, however. The dope trafficking at The Gathering is apparently an atrocity, and a lot of the Juggalos and ‘lettes are there for the singular purpose of being stoned out in the open while they enjoy their bizarre, violent rap music. Masse said some years, some of the attendees taunt the authorities, letting it get out that they have tables set up with every type of recreational pharmaceutical and every ‘flavor’ of pot imaginable, like an open air flea market. Because the event takes place on private property, the police can’t go in and arrest the dopers. In fact, Masse said, people on the grounds are discouraged from using their cell phones while there, as, if there is an incident that requires police intervention, York doesn’t want them calling 911 and bringing the cops out there; instead, he wants people to notify grounds security, who will attend to the problem and see if the police need to become involved at all (including taking someone with a neck injury, throwing them on the back of a golf cart, and putting them out to the entrance, which is what happened last year). This doesn’t bode well for the potential crimes of rape, battery or other violent acts; but Masse said if that happens, they generally only learn about it AFTER the event. Masse also noted that in the past, he has attempted to establish a dialogue with York in an effort to provide services for him at the event, and to let him know that the law was there to help, not hinder, his event. But, Masse said, York wouldn’t have it, and in fact, “He just doesn’t like us,” Masse told us point-blank.
Thus far this year, the ‘pre’-Gathering has landed some arrest/charges incidents, including two involving pot today and six dope related incidents yesterday, one of those incidents involving an arrest for a person having a loaded handgun on him (previous reports that this was an assault rifle, Masse said, were incorrect). While in Hardin this morning and early this afternoon, we didn’t see too many weirdoes….just bad drivers. Those may have been ‘los & ‘lettes without their paint. You can’t ever tell who’s really behind the clown makeup.
The trailer parked at the prison work camp. We've got pics of their other 'toys,' too....we'll have those in the print version (unless they have to use them this weekend).....
Masse said that in order to be prepared for everything just short of Armageddon, each shift has eight to ten troopers from Dist. 22 available, the Special Enforcement Team that circulates through the area ensuring nothing untoward is going on, Hardin County Sheriff’s deputies, the SWAT team (ILEAS, whose trailer was parked outside the prison grounds), Illinois Emergency Management Agency (who has the cool equipment thanks to post-9/11 funding), the Coast Guard out on the waterways (including the Ohio River, which borders Cave), and the Illinois Department of Natural Resources. All of these were up at the prison, and beginning outside of Harrisburg when we took 34 down to Hardin, we saw troopers and sheriff’s cars all the way down to Elizabethtown, and all the way up Highway 1 with the junction of 13 outside Shawneetown.
The penultimate Jugg pair....AND they're breeding!
We’ll have more news on the Juggs as we get it, and pics to go with this post when we’re able to stop & upload em….keep checking back, as it’s a somewhat tense time in Hardin this ‘Gathering’ weekend.
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Is it that time already? Doesn’t seem like it’s been a year…
Hey Mike….wanna go down and cover it for us? Ang is allergic to the facepaint.
Hook me up with a press pass or a ticket and I’ll cover it, Jack. I can’t imagine that there are better opportunities for people-watching anywhere in the world this weekend. I’ll even agree to disregard everything I learned in journalism school…
D’oh. I make my first post in months(?) and it’s moderated, of course.
Yeah…we would need a “no mainstream media-think” approach to it for sure….but I don’t think they’ll let you in on a press pass….& I don’t know how much a ticket is.
$175.00 for a ticket at the gate. Yep, that wasn’t a typo. One hundred seventy five smackeroos.
That rite der is a good reesun not 2 go der!
Whats your excuse Jack?
@OF: for not going? I have a newspaper that you fans expect me to put out every month…if I die, you have no newspaper. I doubt I would escape unscathed. So you all are in luck, and I won’t be attending, so you won’t be Disclosure-deprived.
Although I would miss the paper I am also sure Ang would be so lost without all your love and affection, guidance etc, so…ya probably better stay away from there. Would be better for us to go to Poor Boys and drink on sat nite than to the Juggahoes gatherin of idiots!
How do you all know he’s not already there?….
Dear bride:
Discretion is the better part of valor.
Hint, girl. HINT.
Signed,
Your hubby
o_0
Sorry. Luv ya.
Cuz he’s a big chicken….Hehe
He doesn’t have very good cover, actually….
No kiddin
I could blow that cover easy enough LOL
Ang, We would have loaned him our camper!
Sweets you better not loan him that camper those thugs would slash it, steal the rims and plain out destroy it, after they made a health hazard or two in it. Might as well go park it on the railroad tracks if you are considering loanin it to someone to take to that gathering. If I didnt have such a nice vehicle and had some old clothes or a ride with someone else I would love to go and see this in person just for the observance…much like the first time I saw a tornado…kinda scary but kinda awesome at the same time. Just take of the awesome and insert something like gruesome and you have how I would probably feel should I decide to piss away $175 to get a ticket and go there.
An additional $175.00 to bring a camper in.
Nice to see the dope sales are boomin enough to purchase all of this! :p
O.F., I was just kiddin about the camper, which I’m sure you knew. Jack and Ang know they can use it if they need too, but I know neither one of them could take the “noise” the Juggs call music. No way that my husband or myself could either. I wouldn’t even want the camper associated with the Juggs in any way. Don’t want the negative energy in or around it. When we camp, we like it quiet with nothing but nature to listen to(well GOOD music playing softly sometimes). I don’t even pester hubby…well much..
Yes I knew u was kidding I like to go to a secluded spot also and just get away but I don’t get that opportunity often enuf lol
Well, unfortunately, we don’t either. Not as much as we would like to anyway. There is always something going on where we can’t get away, like we like to anyway. Soooo, when we just can’t take it any longer, we redneck camp on the property..
Nuttin against rednecks because we’ve been called that too.. 
I do beleive most were in the walmart in Harrisburg today, just the looks of them really makes you want to be there.
Wait ’till it’s over with. The ones left stranded down there are loaded in a van in Hardin County and brought to Harrisburg Walmart and dropped off. Gee thanks…
LOL ya then they can rob the stores til they have enough money to get home…Aint that nice! Just dont bring em any further north unless you are takin them to chicago, you know the biggest part of the state of Illinois? We down here in Kentuckiana cant handle these rascals as we don’t have any money for them and we dont have nothin left to steal, Blago and all his buddies took it all!
I was gonna make a comment, and it was gonna be good too. But, I can’t remember what the sam hill it was! I’m going to bed, night folks. Maybe in the morning I’ll remember wtf it was. Probly won’t seem near as good then. :oups:
In all fairness, all juggalos and juggalettes are not bad. Dont let a few bad apples spoil the fun for everyone. Besides whats wrong with kickin back burnin one down and listening to your favorite band, or artist perform live in such a beautiful setting? Remember people woodstock had its fair share of trouble as well but all in all it turned out alright
And one more thing before i go i gotta say, MMFWCL!!!!!!!!!!!!
@ Big Nate420: “What’s wrong with kickin back burnin one down and listening to your favorite band….?”
Um. It’s ILLEGAL.
You idiots.
And btw….just because some of us normal people aren’t “down with the clown” doesn’t mean we can’t THINK “satanist” when we see this crap. The satanist’s creed is “Do what you will.” That’s what you morons do. Singing about killing people, raping corpses (photo coming up of a t-shirt that says “It ain’t rape if it’s DEAD”), shit like that, well, it kinda gives us humans a bad impression of you subhumans. If you’re so god-fearing, you might be aware of a Scripture that says “By their associations, you will know them.” When you hang out with scum, you’re gonna get scum on you. Don’t get onto us NON-scum just because we look at your scumminess and THINK “scum.”
Next thing ya know we are gonna have some idiot on here tellin us meth heads are good to and we shouldn’t look down at them. What a way to start off the day by talkin to a 420 friendly idiot!
Thanks Jack, that is exactly what I was going to say last night!
I can agree with most of what you are saying. Although you seem to be classifying everyone that attends the gathering as “scum” and that’s simply not true. There are a lot of decent people that attend the gathering, but most of the time they go unnoticed. Besides most of it is shock value much like marilyn manson, jim morrison, ozzy osbourne, kiss, or even alice cooper to name a few. With any type of musical genre there will always be the ones that are labeled as bad or “scum” as you like to put it. And as for your statement about normal people, what IS normal exactly?
Unfortunately for the ‘decent people,’ when you lie down with dogs, you’re gonna get fleas. So when they associate themselves with scum, they’re ALL going to be labeled as ‘scum’ for purposes of presentation.
As for ‘normal,’ that is more of an absence of a quality or characteristic, in this case in particular, than a presence of any other quality or characteristic. In the case instanter, ‘normal’ would be someone who does NOT:
Paint their face like a clown to be like everyone around them, who do so in order to identify with a band that uses some of the most disgusting lyrics available in their music and has for years;
Listen to aforementioned bands with aforementioned lyrics, as well as other bands that emulate them (because what you fill your mind with is what you become….which is why our schools are failing our young people, because they’re teaching them socialism instead of the Constitution);
Dye their hair in koolaid colors and think it’s acceptable to appear in public like that (it turns heads, but not in the way the wearers like to think);
Think it’s perfectly okay to spend thousands of dollars on this one weekend a year, to the point that they don’t have enough gas in their tank to get home (to Connecticut) and count on the local police department or state police to front em a tank of gas instead of leaving them stranded (aka panhandling);
Go on binge thieving as soon as their event is over;
Give a shit that TENS OF THOUSANDS of dollars of local taxpayers’ money is going to protect the general public from them, as well as protect them from themselves;
Give a shit that their presence inspires little kids (ages 13-17) to purchase up all the dope their little hands can filch money for so they can turn a massive profit selling it at the Gathering.
NONE OF THAT IS NORMAL.
ALL of that is known as SCUM.
But we have been, and continue to be, waiting for photos or videos that show our readers how warm and loving and normal these Juggs can be….and so far, we haven’t a one. Not ONE. Where are they? that one’s easy….they’re lying down with the dogs in the ashes of a still-warm campfire, scrounging around for a little bit of whatever the dope was they took last night that wore off and caused them to crash.
Someone decient wouldn’t be with hangin with these clowns. Nothing decient found in the dope bag! Quit clowning around and pretendin to be decent! As Jack said if you sleep with the dogs you will have fleas and well likewise with playin with scum or feces…if you play in either you will be covered in it. Remember when you was a kid and liked playin in the water? Be it a puddle of water or a faucet or a pond, lake, river, etc it didnt matter if you got into it you got wet. You sir are all wet and its not the kind of wetness we prefer in our society. Sorry if this inconveniences you in anyway but some of us have higher standards for our children and families than you do!
Ya anyone with two days of internet experience knows what the numbers 420 means and then u come right on here and admit u are a doper. How can you claim any part of what you all do down there is even ok cuz it sure as hell ain’t legal?.?. You are only foolin yourself if you think that crazy crap you are listening to is called music…and a band? Come on a band has talent and knows how to play a tune that anyone can enjoy and sing along with…I would bet you can’t even tell what song tthey are playin when the music starts (cuz it all sounds the same) until they start growlin out those words like choppin up momma with an axe or something along those lines. Its crazy, satanic which also makes it evil which is the exact opposite of good….don’t be even remotely tryin to tell me you or anyone of that gang is good. Try proving you are good by growing up and getting away from this crap and doing something productive in society like WORK! Minimum Wage Jobs Like McDonalds don’t count but that’s better than bein a dope dealer….
Minimum wage jobs dont count. LOL Your really showing your intelligence there OF. I bet the first job you had wasnt pullin in 150k a year. Unless you were born with a silver spoon in your mouth.
You are right I was mowing yards and painting for folks when I was 13 yrs old. By the time I was 16 I was driving around painting propane tanks for a lot more than minimum wage. Then I took on a trade that exists in many areas of this great country. Electrical wiring and guess what I didn’t have to listen to any band to get in the groove. Small fry when you plan on attacking me you better kno who you are talking to. I didn’t lay around with a bunch of dopers and I didnt lay out drunk upon turning 21 I was running my own business. Oh and by the way I dont have to depend on the state or federal welfare system to raise my kids neither. I am proud of where I am at and I got there by (working)! You should try it sometime…most of all the other decent people are or at least have some background in some area of societys work force! I wasn’t born with any spoon in my mouth neither so quit makin excuses small fry you just don’t wanna admit your a fat lazy piece of scum who doesn’t have any desire to work. You would rather live off of people like myself who pay taxes and bitch about how bad you have it. If you were a little more inclined to work you would have more and have some decent friends to surround yourself with. Decent people don’t associate themselves with clowns like the juggs as you can see there is a reason they have a bad name. Thrill seeking can be done in many ways and illegal activities isn’t something decent people participate in! This land is full of opportunities, if you choose to indulge on the illegal opportunities don’t come bitching at me when you are classified indecent. Go do something to change the way you are viewed, I suggested one thing and thats to work. Can you imagine someone making a career on minimum wage? I can’t either. Sure Minimum wage is good for school kids but come on man when you move out on your own and become an adult (questioning whether you’re in this class) you have to move up the ladder and get a job above minimum wage. Now that I have explained myself I am sure you still wont agree with me but frankly I could care less because as long as you are runnin with the juggs you won’t be classified as decent among those who actually kno what decent is. Take off the blind fold small fry you will see what I am sayin is true!
I’ll have to say I don’t agree with you about the pot but I will agree that 80% are good people. Have fun and get home safe!
Haaaa! I saw a female juggalo in Walmart today in her bra and panties! Haaaa! Sundance is just shaking her head.
Pot may not be as bad as some substances both legal and illegal but the facts show pot leads to more aggresive substances for these thrill seekers and in my opinion its all dope. I am sure the one in her bra and panties wasn’t just doin pot but never-the-less one leads to another. If we legalize pot they will switch to pill poppin or something else that is illegal. Oh wait they already pop pills…NEVERMIND!
Just wondering how it can still be “Private Land” when you open it to the public and charge for it! The police do not need a warrant if they observe a crime being committed or they see contraband (illegal items) in plain view. This is called exiting circumstances which do not require a warrant. This allows the police to enter private property without permission
“Exigent.” And unfortunately, the police aren’t allowed on the property to OBSERVE any illegal activity….and if someone sent a cell phone pic of some dope being dealt, and the cops thought they could get in on that alone (and obtain a warrant over it), all the juggs would have to do is change what skank clothes they have and dip different koolaid dye into their hair, and no one could tell whether it was the same person in the photo or not….whether it was taken this year or last…..or even ON that campgrounds. It’s an impossibility. The county board needs to prepare and ordinance that prohibits gatherings of 500 or more (so it doesn’t rule out family reunions, church revivals, large, military-scale funerals, etc) unless certain requirements are met, including a massive fee ($10,000 should do for a start), official walk-throughs unannounced, and other things so as to at least keep the expense to Hardin and surrounding counties down. But they won’t, because they’re pussies.
Test comment
:p
My mom-in-law was telling us yesterday morning that there had already been fights reported from there with at least one arrest and a few others taken to the hospital. I think she heard it on the morning news…not sure…
I guess I need to have Ang call Smoky….he’ll fill us in.
I just checked out WSIL TV 3′s website..Smokey talked about fights and such that has already went on..’Juggalos Converge On Hardin County’ is what it’s under…
Hope the site stays up and running looks good so far. Can’t even tell there has been a change other than its faster now!
Thanks, speed and our own control is one of the primary things we aimed at. Actually some things are still turned off as we beta test the site now. Like emailing stories is off, a lot of admin stuff on the back end, the rotating cloud tag on the stories pages, and a few other things.
Main thing is we are no longer censored by our host provider. We were warned about posting certain views solely because our previous host provider’s owner was Mormon. Nothing against Mormons (a lil weird with their magic underwear and stuff) but they couldn’t separate his views from his business. Anyways… We own our own box, which also means we have to manage everything on our own server now.
Keep Chris up to date with server problems: webadmin@disclosurenewsonline.com
Heh…this means I can tell people what I really think about Mitt Romney…..
Oh we certainly will…hope jack and ang got my email earlier. I didn’t use the link on the website…hope the website didn’t screw up the emails. At any rate Jack if you got it lemme kno if you don’t mind.
Go ahead Jack tell us what you think of Mitt Romney…we want disclosed on the matter!
On Friday morning I saw several Illinois State Police troopers in green fatigues that looked quite a bit like the rip-stop poplin of the jungle fatigues used back in the 60s & 70s in the Cracker Barrel in Marion, was this what they were getting ready for?
Hmm..I don’t know if this counts as having a problem with the new system but my post is either in moderation or in the trash. It seems as if most of what I post here never makes it so I am wondering if perhaps I should change my email address and name on here so I can start posting again?
It should pick you back up Dennis after moderators direct it a few times.
When is the web admin gonna get my website finished?
Chris: it doesn’t work that way with Dennis, nor with half of Old Fart’s stuff, either. There’s NO REASON for them to be put into the spam folder. I’ll check settings, but I can’t find anything to indicate WHY they are constantly getting dumped in there. And Dennis, I can’t apologize enough. I can’t figure it out.
Ya im tired of bein thrown to the trash barrel
Thanks Web Admin, I was getting so disgusted that I was visiting here less frequently simply because my posts were not being posted. I sure hope things work out and thanks again.
I see the juggalos thought as much of Charlie Sheen as they did Tila Tequila.