They’re baaaaaack! Seat belt cops on the prowl in the area
Above, a sign as placed on the property at MidEast Supply just east of CVS in Fairfield this morning, 05.24.11.
Remember the days when law enforcement assured us that not having your seatbelt on would NOT result in a traffic stop, that they’d only issue a ticket if there was another reason for the stop and you didn’t have your seatbelt on? We do, too.
We find it remarkable that in most states, a BFD is made over auto drivers not being “buckled up”….but no such rule holds for motorcycle drivers because motorcycles don’t have seatbelts. Nor do school buses, although the ever-encroaching legislators in our state and others are trying to mandate THAT. And you think your property taxes are high NOW because of school spending (this is especially directed to those who have no children in the public school system).
Our correspondent, Old Fart, opined on it like this: “Yes it’s the seatbelt law, a law that should have never been passed and should be fought down nationwide. Why should I have to wear a seatbelt in my car when a motorcycling fool can go without a helmet? Why should I be forced to wear something if I choose not to? I must also ask what’s next after all this and other unconstitutional laws? A dress code perhaps?”
Your opinions on this “law” are welcome; we want to hear what you have to say.
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I didn’t like it when it came along either, on the basis that basically the government was catering to the insurance lobby to tell us what’s best for us. I might have felt different if I thought my ejected body could go through the other guys windshield and kill him, which doesn’t seem real likely.
Now though, I wear it not because the law says so, but because of what I’ve learned about passenger safety systems and how they work, as part of my new business venture. A vehicle that can sense whether or not you’re buckled is more likely to deploy the airbags if you’re not, because you’re going to be moving around a lot more in a collision if you’re not. Also, going back several model years, the first thing that will deploy is a device in your belt that “cinches” the belt somewhat tighter than where you had it adjusted to, it’s that cylinder looking thing under your seat. When that dude goes off, you and that seat are going to be staying together, come what may.
I’m still not a huge fan of checkpoints for the express purpose of seat-belt enforcement though, there’s too many other things going on while they’re doing that.
I dont mind wearing a seatbelt either its just the simple fact of bein told you have to or else….it should be a individuals decision whether to wear it or not…no arguement seatbelts can save your life but so can a bungee cord when your bungee jumping or a parachute when sky diving but its not a law to do those things…sure hope govy quinn ain’t gettin any ideas…I think I would lead the revolt if that were to happen and the seat belt law is just as crazy as far as dictatorship type of laws go
I don’t mind wearing a seatbelt either, in fact I don’t feel right without one on. I just don’t think it is any of the states business if you choose not to. (as long as you are not covered by a state medical card). I have talked to several troopers that feel the same way but they are ordered to go after us by their superiors. Most of the locals and deputies I know all but refuse to write a seatbelt ticket unless you just piss them off. I feel the same way about helmets. I won’t ride without one but don’t want big brother ordering me to wear one. The insurance companies were the ones that pushed for the laws and I see where they were coming from but I think it was handled wrong. The law should have allowed them to refuse to pay for injuries caused by not wearing a seatbelt or helmet. They might have been able to do that without passing a law at all just by putting that stipulation in your policy. I get a kick out of these Harley riders that claim “loud pipes save lives” but refuse to wear a helmet. That’s bullshit…….HELMETS SAVE LIVES……………
Yes not wearing helmets on bikes makes me mad about the seatbelt law, however the other side of this coin that also makes me mad is this; you have to have a pumpkin carrier seat for a newborn just to walk out of the hospital buut you still have the legal option of abortion…now just who the hell gets to play god and decide when children/people die! On the seatbelt law again its a shame also that we have to wear our seatbelt but let us grow a few years older and be broke and watch em let us die…funnny how we seem to have a double standard here
I am all for making sure that little kids are made safe, it is their right to live. If you want to become a projectile through your windshield, be my guest but that child isn’t old enough to decide for themselves so every precaution should be made that they survive to become old enough to make their own decisions.
One rainy Sunday night in Galveston Texas there was a moron driving a big 70s model Mercury westbound on the Seawall. Going eastbound was a little Toyota station wagon with a Coast Guardsman, his wife and their little girl who was probably not yet three. They had just left church services and were going home.
The moron was unfamiliar with the road. His wipers couldn’t keep up with the heavy downpour of rain so he rolled down his window and was watching the stripes in the road to maintain where he was in the lane. The problem was, he thought those yellow stripes were the center line when they were actually designation the parking lane for cars going the other way. In other words, he was driving in the oncoming lane.
The two cars collided head-on, I got the call and was there within a couple of minutes. The moron was of course unharmed as the ones at fault usually seem to be. The young Coast Guardsman and his wife were both dead, the wife ejected through the windshield, laying in front of their car and her husband partially out the windshield but held back because the steering wheel stopped him somewhat. His eyeball was hanging out of it’s socket and was on his cheek.
A man who had stopped at the scene before I got there walked up carrying the couple’s little daughter and handed her to me. To the best of my knowledge, it appeared that the little girl must have been laying down in the backseat asleep during the collision and that was how she survived the wreck that made her an instant orphan.
That wreck was in the early 90s. I doubt that the little girl, who is probably now grown with a family of her own, remembers anything of that night. But I do. I remember what the little girl said to me as the man handed her to me in the pouring rain. She said “Mommy and Daddy are asleep and won’t wake up.”
I guess what I am trying to say with that story is that while we rightfully so don’t want the government to tell us what to do, wearing seatbelts is not a bad idea. The little girl wasn’t in a seat belt or carseat but was protected by the position she was in. Had her parents been wearing seatbelts, they would have, in all probability, survived that wreck and lived to see their beautiful little daughter grow up.
I am still against the “gubmit” telling folks what to do unless their behavior interferes with another person’s rights or I have to pay for their behavior.
Well, congratulations, D…you just made the 30,000th comment! WOW!
Well does dennis get a free discloosure t shirt for this?
Well does dennis get a free discloosure t shirt for this?
Dennis,
I think you may have misunderstood what I was trying to say. I am in no way saying a child should be left unbuckled especially an infant…what I am saying is the fact a hospital will not let you go home without seeing the car seat commonly referred to as a pumpkin seat. Furthermore I feel it is disgusting to allow a legal form of MURDER commonly called ABORTION just months before this human life can be welcomed into this world. The fact the hospital takes some sort of police authority in saying that you cant take your child without one makes me feel the same as the seatbelt law. I believe I have enough common sense to decide whether it is wise to wear a belt and raise my kids. If for some reason it can be proven otherwise, me or anyone else determined to be unfit shouldnt be subject to rules, rather our rights as a parent should be terminated. I have three children Dennis and not one time have they ever rode in a vehicle unbuckled not even across the field its just good measure. I love my children and simply don’t need anyone telling me how to raise them no more than I need someone telling me what I have to wear in a car. As others and I believe even you said that its possible to become a projectile if you don’t wear it but the real question is this. If you dont have enough brains for guidance without laws on buckling your kids or even buckling yourself then why dont they enforce a dress code and a religious code because its apparent that some dont have enough common sense to do either of those things either and it leads to just as much tragedy as does driving without a seatbelt.
Actually, a dress code is in effect, you can’t run around naked! lol!
You got me there and I guess there is a code of conduct to since we can’t just shoot stupid folks lol…but u got me and I will be sure to dress accordingly
DON’T LOOK DENNNNNNNNNISSSSS!!! I think I forgoot the dress code today…but even naked I bet I look better than the juggheads down south haha.
Sorry dennis I had to do it…couldnt resist
DON’T LOOK DENNNNNNNNNISSSSS!!! I think I forgoot the dress code today…but even naked I bet I look better than the juggheads down south haha.
Sorry dennis I had to do it…couldnt resist
well the way i see it is its my life my body if i want to take the chance that my body is going to be ejected from the car or through the windshield then that is my right if its ok for these girls to go out and have abortions because its their body then shouldnt i have the same right when it comes to my body
well the way i see it is its my life my body if i want to take the chance that my body is going to be ejected from the car or through the windshield then that is my right if its ok for these girls to go out and have abortions because its their body then shouldnt i have the same right when it comes to my body
Paula, it is only your body when you are pregnant and want to have an abortion. Any other time it belongs to Big Brother IE: sealtbelt laws, madated health insurance, no salt or trans fats and it damn sure isn’t your body when you go to the airport, you are classified as cargo!
I feel the same way and was pissed as hell this morning when at 8:30 am they were out hassling the motoring public…just cars and trucks no motorcycles or schoolbuses or even semis hauling hazardous waste or whatever were stopped just seat belt violators what a crock! I agree with what one comment said when they stated to many other things are going on while these guys are focused on “of all things” a freakin seat belt! Come on Little Boys with the Big Hats its time to grow up or maybe I can make a citizens arrest the next time I see one of them not wearing one or perhaps a citizens arrest for not using a turn signal, or speeding without cause…You name it boys I can do it and make your lives just as miserable. Its ridiculous to chase someone down for this just as stupid as it would be for me to have to come after the state police for breaking laws but believe me I can and will as I have seen it several times and all it would take is a camera to catch you…don’t worry I will have a passenger to do the filming or get an automatic camera but it will be easy to catch them screwing up and if Im nice I might cut em a break and let em off of one of the multiple charges I am bringin on em. I to have better things to be doiing and would rather not trouble myself with none sense but you know enough is enough and thats pretty much all I can say…If anyone wants to be my passenger just hollar back I would love to catch these dirtbags throwin stones in a glass house
Old Fart, you might want to check with your attorney but I think that a citizen can only make an arrest for a felony. I get Illinois law and Texas law confused sometimes as I worked in both states so you might want to look into that before attempting to arrest a state trooper for speeding.
As far as the law, I wear my seatbelts religiously because I truly feel that they save lives. Stats show it (I know they can be manipulated) but in my entire law enforcement career I do not recall ever working a fatal motor vehicle accident where the victim was wearing a seat beat but I also do not feel that the “gubmit” should be telling people what to do as long as it is not violating someone else’s rights.
That being said, I would be fine with a repeal of the seatbelt laws and the drug laws for that matter as long as there is a stipulation that my tax dollars do not have to go to paying the nursing home bills for those who choose to become vegetables from head injuries in a car wreck that could have been prevented by wearing a seat belt or those who burn their brains out on some currently illegal drug.
Well if anyone is worried about paying a bill then you ought to be worried about paying for some motorcycling fool doin wheelies and not wearing any protection then being forced to disablity the rest of his or her life as a result…My point was this if they can get by without head gear on two wheels why cant I have the same choice when using four wheels on a seat belt. That being said Dennis I respect you and your comment on here. I think that it becomes a felony if you flee a state cop so what does it make it if the state cop flees from a citizens arrest? There is always a loop hole for the governors clan and I wouldnt be surprised they dont have one also on this item but I thot the law covered pretty much any offense even a misdemeanor charge like theft or trespassing possibly vandalism could be covered as well but I seriouslt thought it should not be a problem since they can hassle us then we should make them live by their own standard thats the main objective…No more special rules for them!
No arguement about paying for someone else’s poor judgement or bad behavior from me. Lord knows that there are plenty enough people fraudulently recieving disability benefits as it is. (Ironically, I know several people who are legitimately disabled and cannot get on disability)
As far as a state trooper fleeing from a citizen’s arrest, I have no idea what to advise you on that. As I said before, I think it has to be a felony initially before a citizen can make an arrest, not escalate into a felony by fleeing or resisting arrest would be my guess.
Ya I wasn’t even touuching that part off the subject im just sayin that when the motorcycle crashes and the rider has no head gear its juust as bad or worse than one not wearing a seatbelt. I would like to catch them acting tough and breakin the law and at the very least take it before the judge maybe a grand jury just to make their lives a living hell like they do so many others with this useless law
No arguement about paying for someone else’s poor judgement or bad behavior from me. Lord knows that there are plenty enough people fraudulently recieving disability benefits as it is. (Ironically, I know several people who are legitimately disabled and cannot get on disability)
As far as a state trooper fleeing from a citizen’s arrest, I have no idea what to advise you on that. As I said before, I think it has to be a felony initially before a citizen can make an arrest, not escalate into a felony by fleeing or resisting arrest would be my guess.
…them boy’s should be stoppin’ one another…no revenue in that though…
…them boy’s should be stoppin’ one another…no revenue in that though…
…them boy’s should be stoppin’ one another…no revenue in that though…
Now now you all…..stop being so hysterical; this all for your own safety and protection. Big Brother knows best don’t cha know. Now stop having independent thoughts and thinking that you know what is best for you and for your family! Big Brother is going to save you from your own stupid self! (Sarcasm is still free isn’t it?)
Ya cuz god only knows u can’t fix stupid
No I believe mr sir knighted Obamy has decided you cant be sarcastic…If you dont believe me go be sarcastic with rick white he will turn that into a confession in court and pay his states attorney buddys to play it all out and send ya to DOC
LOOK OUT BIG BROTHER IS OUT LOOKIN FOR YOUR BEST INTEREST AGAIN TODAY (5-30-11) I’m so glad BIG BROTHER is lookin out for me as I apparently don’t know how to take care of my self, after all these years! If they are so worried about safety why dont they also ask about the tires its a known fact that a lot of vehicles are on our nations roadways with unsafe tires and other mechanical problems that could wind up killing people. Lets face it we all know they arent lookin out for us. WHAT WE DO KNOW IS THAT THIS IS ALL PART OF OPERATION REVENUE! If they had found a way to make a vehicle stop just cuz they want to check your tires and write a ticket they would. Same with headlights and tail lights! The ISP needs to take that Orange Sign and stick it! This economy is troubled enough without anyone else such as ISP helping to destroy it further.
Very true OF regarding tires and so forth, brakes would be another one. Some things have to be maintained and if you don’t the risk for an accident becomes greater than it should be. That being the case and this State broke on it’s backside with debt, it’s a wonder to me they haven’t instituted mandatory annual vehicle inspection. That would be a money machine, but at least it would have a measureable effect on the safety of the roads we all share. (some people don’t share very well, that’s why you need good tires and brakes)
Would be easy to enforce too with a nice colorful sticker, and you know they like it easy or they wouldn’t be running seat-belt checkpoints. LOL
Very true OF regarding tires and so forth, brakes would be another one. Some things have to be maintained and if you don’t the risk for an accident becomes greater than it should be. That being the case and this State broke on it’s backside with debt, it’s a wonder to me they haven’t instituted mandatory annual vehicle inspection. That would be a money machine, but at least it would have a measureable effect on the safety of the roads we all share. (some people don’t share very well, that’s why you need good tires and brakes)
Would be easy to enforce too with a nice colorful sticker, and you know they like it easy or they wouldn’t be running seat-belt checkpoints. LOL
That’s exactly where I was heading with my thoughts it ain’t about the Fact of them caring its just another way for them to be bullies! It isn’t about safety it was about money from its inception! Now shuld we wear a belt? Of course! But shuld we be forced to? Hell No!