Saline Co. grand jury indictee located in Gallatin…along with some other things
John Robinson
GALLATIN CO.—A host of agents from every imaginable law enforcement entity has converged on Gallatin County as of yesterday, 08.18.10, brought in due to some interesting discoveries when local officials went to make an arrest on a Saline County grand jury indictee.
John Robinson, 56, of Eldorado, was indicted by a Saline County grand jury on Aug. 9 on charges of Unlawful Delivery of a Controlled Substance within 1,000 feet of a church and Unlawful Delivery of Controlled Substance. Local authorities were unable to find Robinson immediately and held release of his name pending the execution of his arrest warrant.
On the morning of Wednesday, Aug. 18, Gallatin County authorities received a tip that Robinson was hanging out with a Gallatin guy, Brian Mann, at Mann’s trailer reportedly on Eagle Creek Road not far from the Gallatin/Saline county line. Robinson’s information was sent to Gallatin County’s sheriff, and Gallatin authorities headed out to the residence. There, they did find Robinson, and took him into custody.
However, they also found something else—an alleged amount of dope, and a weapon in plain view. Since Robinson is a felon and has been to federal prison according to authorities, they decided they’d better get a warrant. Mann was also taken into custody and when the warrant was obtained, Gallatin authorities began a search of the trailer.
Shortly thereafter, they came across what was described as detonation cord, and a possible hand grenade.
At that point, local authorities backed out of the trailer and immediately notified the Secretary of State Police Bomb Squad, along with agents from the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms.
It’s been those agents who have been swarming the county yesterday and today, and as far as our official sources have confirmed, they are still in the area following up on leads and trying to figure out just how extensive this latest possible bomb-making situation is. It may very well be like what we experienced in Edwards six years ago when meth-makers were perfecting their ‘personal safety’ skills as well as their recreational pharmaceutical recipes…but you can never tell.
More in the print version, on stands in less than a week if we can get back to the office and start writing again!
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Posted by Chris Beavers
on Aug 19 2010. Filed under Gallatin, Saline.
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Jeez, Admin, the saga just goes on and on.
The dope in this area goes on and on. And now we’ve come to understand that this isn’t a recent thing, at least in Gallatin…it’s been going on for GENERATIONS.
You must be a young man, Admin. We’ve known this for years.
Hell John has been involved since high school!!
Bomb making materials, omg! So what does Raymond have next week? Is it just a case mgt.?
@galcounty: Yes, just case management. But if all is looking hopeless for him—at least as far as from HIS point of view—there exists the possibility that he might plead…especially if he has finally given up some names of people much much bigger than him.
What is “much much bigger,” you ask? Well, there are people in Gallatin County who hold a higher office than he, make more money, and are in office longer than just four years—JUDGES.
And, when it comes down to it, there are people in Gallatin County who make more money than judges…plenty of it off of taxpayers’ backs…I’m thinkin…FARMERS.
So if any of Raymondo’s buddies or family are reading this right now, you know who/what I’m speaking about; so pass the word along to Raymondo—we’ll be GLAD to stop writing about him if he’ll dish on the judges and farmers in south counties (note I used the PLURAL form) and hem them up. Hell, we’d invite him over to the next barbecue if he’d do that, because if he names the right people—and we know he knows who to name—he’d be outta there like nothing ever happened.
What are the odds that this is connected to Raymond Martin?
@just me: Pretty slim. This was all about Robinson. But I’m sure there are some fairly pointed questions being asked of Robinson and Mann.
Both of these names have been intertwined with Drugs and Law Enforcement for several years.
Why haven’t some of the Dopeies haven’t been charged as Habitual Crimanals?
Judges just in GCO of perhaps Saline as well?
I would say half in the Second Circuit and half in the First Circuit…use your imagination. Our intelligence indicates that Raymondo was aware of ALL of it. And potentially supplying at least half of it if not more.
If he does start naming those names and giving the information on all of them don’t you think he would have to definitely move far, far away?
@galcounty: LOL!
Yeah. Probably at least out of the state. Maybe a FEW states away.
Bombs and violence are nothing new for our neck of the woods. From the violent, frontier days where one historian wrote a book that said that both the Native Americans and the White Settlers were brutal and everyday was a struggle to survive to the early mining wars to the mines going under and people resorting to illegal activities in their struggle to survive. Drugs have been prevalent for decades in Southern Illinois. Meth has also been around for at least a couple of decades when bikers rolled into the Shawnee. It was inevitable that the locals would start cooking and selling the sh1t when they had no where else to work and could not fathom moving away. The mistake these local dealers made was starting to use the sh1t.
This is nothing new, people. It’s just that we now have the good people at the Disclosure to print what’s really going on in our neighborhoods.
The best part about what Disclosure is doing is they make sure that all of us peasants down here in the trenches now know that the majority of our politicians and the pillars of society are in this sh1t just as deep as the lowest of us all.
In Saline Co., I personally can count on one hand the people in power who are not immoral and/or up to their neck in illegal activities. Truly, the Emperor is naked.
I hear the Federal Witness Protection Program is still up and running…lol. Might be a good option.
Any other police officers involved admin with Raymond?
@MadHatter: we haven’t heard ANY police officers named. I know that’s totally not what everyone expected, but it’s true.
and rand paul states drug problem not a real pressing issue. wow.
Now, don’t start in on Rand Paul.
If our government would get off this ‘drug war’ kick (which many believe THEY are the ones fomenting) and start focusing on real crime and corruption, the problem would take care of itself…we’ve got money-sucking public elected, appointed or employed people who are using municipalities, counties and agencies as their own personal savings and loans, thereby bleeding the taxpayers and making “minimum wage” impossible to live off of because of all kinds of taxes, including inflation tax, the hidden tax Ron Paul talks about…if government gets bigger, it takes more of us self-employed or underemployed to pay for it, meaning less for us, meaning more people are drawn into dope…if there are less of us to employ people, that means fewer employed, which means people are drawn to drugs…more and bigger fines and fees to pay for the increasing size of local government, more people drawn to drugs…feeling of hopelessness, people are drawn to drugs…do you see the point? The government needs to get out of peoples’ business, allow us to keep more of our money, spend it how we wish, reduce the size and scope of government, and if that means stopping some of these ridiculously-high sentences for drug possession/manufacturing, so be it. The cycle is self-perpetuating, and until it’s broken somewhere, it’s going to keep getting bigger and bigger. People can’t do it themselves, they need more incentive and less pressure; smaller and less intrusive government is a good start, and that’s what Rand is talking about.
HUA Admin!! I hope this guy is as advertised. If so I don’t need to look any further.
i can agree with you on the waste and corruption, maybe not so much on some of the others, but you don’t make a statement saying drugs are not a pressing issue. people know that’s not true. if you have new ideas, say that. whoever is managing him should be dumped before his shoot from the hip statements ends any chance he has. this is just one of many things he said that are idiotic. you know what i’m talking about.
Well, we’ve had that argument, and I have yet to actually hear him make the statements his opponents say he makes without the context around them causing them to make perfect sense. You’re right, he does say “shoot-from-the-hip” things; he’s not a ‘politician’, he’s an eye surgeon. But his heart and motives are in the right place. IMO if enough decent, hard-working, heart-in-the-right-place people would stand up and do what Rand is doing, we could overthrow the corrupt crooks who position themselves in places of power (Saline Water Conservancy District comes immediately to mind…) for no reason other than their own personal gain. Rand has nothing to ‘gain’ by his run for Senate if he wins; he will likely have to give up a successful and lucrative practice so he can be the voice of the people of his state in the most corrupt hellhole in the world, Washington DC. He could retire in a couple of years and look forward to grandkids and fishing. But instead he’s throwing himself out there to the wolves knowing they will eviscerate him and twist every word he says because he’s RIGHT. I say—GOOD FOR HIM! he loves this country and its Constitution. More of us should put ourselves out there on that limb and try to make changes where we can, whether its a tiny form of government like a township or road commission, or a run for something as huge as Senate.
Shunned: he is as advertised. Unfortunately, he’s not in our state! But you can still help him in his Senate bid; they have a money bomb going on right now; we donated.
https://www.randpaul2010.com/donate/
And, Ang sent an email to him yesterday inviting him to speak at the Marion Tea Party Oct. 2. She will be speaking also. We hope Rand accepts.
I am sure that the judge Gallatin Co. has now is as honest at you can find anywhere. He is a fine man from a good family.
So we hear.
We are also aware, however, that other judges take that seat throughout the week…and bear in mind that I did say south counties, plural.
admin, paul is against the americans with disabilities act, thinks businesses should have the right to deny service to blacks, the president was wrong to get british petro. to put up money for damages, medicare is socialism, social security is a ponzi scheme, that our poor in america are better off than the rest of the world, therefore we should be proud of our system of capitalism, it just goes on and on. all of these statements can be found on youtube or elsewhere. him, on camera, saying these things himself. out of context? come on. he honestly believes all of it.
No, no and no. Again…you’re buying into msm sound bytes, lies and distortions. Many of the clips you can view on YouTube have already been outed, months ago actually, as being altered. Scroogle it and you’ll find out.
Medicare IS socialism. Social security IS and always has been a Ponzi scheme. Our poor in America ARE better off than many in the rest of the world, especially the world’s poor. We SHOULD be proud of our system of capitalism. It WORKS…when it’s allowed to work when government keeps its filthy hands off it.
I’d love to debate this with you, but we have four front pagers and only one is done. That’s a scary prospect on a Thursday night. It has to be done before Sunday, so I have to get going…please check the Rand Paul post for some sense on these issues.
don’t think our senior citizens and our poor would like his way of thinking.
sorry, just flappin’ my gums. write, man, write!
truthteller, I’ll reply to a couple of those points.
first off, as far as a business that might want to refuse business to blacks… let them! If a business hates you, why would you want to spend your money there? Why would you want to help them profit? It could only hurt them in the long run by not serving blacks. Think of all of the business they will lose when word gets around. With that part of the Civil Rights Act in place you never know if you’re giving your money to somebody that hates you. I would rather know! If a business doesn’t want to serve me for whatever reason, I’ll never visit them again. I won’t even go into a Family Dollar again since they wouldn’t give me change for a $5 one winter when it was freezing outside and caused me to miss a bus and wait another hour. So, definitely if somebody didn’t want to serve me because I’m white, or Christian, or whatever reason, then screw them, I’ll spend my money somewhere else!
Our poor in America ARE better off than the poor in other nations. I don’t see what the problem with that statement is. Look at some African countries where we are sending aid to. Consider India and Mexico where people are working for the equivalent of $2 or $3 an hour. Our poor are doing much better than that. Capitalism is not the problem. I’m sorry if you watched some Michael Moore movie about corporatism and he confused you by saying that it was capitalism. It is not! Capitalism is simply being able to earn a profit from the services or product that you provide. Nothing wrong with that, everybody wants to do better. I’m proud of all capitalistic endeavors made by my fellow citizens. On the other hand, I don’t agree with a lot of corporate activity or the socialists that bailed them out.
All of this can be explained from articles or videos on youtube and other sites on the internet. I honestly believe all of that and I’m proud to support both Rand and Ron Paul.
samijam, if you want to do away with the civil rights act, i wouldn’t tell too many people. and it’s the feeling that paul has the inability to empathize with those less fortunate than he, not whether they’re better off than africans.
truthteller, nobody wants to “do away with the civil rights act.” Rand Paul only commented that if he were in the Senate at the time that it was being voted on, that there would have been more discussion on that particular part of it.
However, every time that I or anybody else mention that part of it, people like you cannot come back with an intelligent response as to why I or others that agree with me might be wrong in our beliefs.
Therefore, I challenge you to provide an argument to my previously stated points regarding that portion of the Civil Rights Act, or admit that I, and Rand Paul, are correct and that neither of us can be considered racist.
no one is calling you a racist. just try to put yourself in the position of a minority person, who alone or with a spouse and children, won’t know until you walk inside that your skin is the only reason you are told to leave, or, to save themselves time, signs are posted outside, and you have to look at them everytime you go by. having to explain to your child he is hated because of the color of skin that God gave him is abhorent. paul said businesses should have this right. he stated he beleives the “free market” would solve the problem. he stated of course the government shouldn’t follow this practice. wasn’t that big of him?
Jeezopete. OF COURSE the free market would take care of such a thing. Anyone who would put up such a hateful sign DESERVES to be going out of business because thinking people won’t patronize his store…what part of that don’t you get? The free market would have taken care of such a thing LONG before a LAW would have, simply because of the public sentiment the country was going through at the time, when peoples’ eyes were being opened to the fact that everyone WAS created equal, regardless of skin color or anything else. Businesses that practiced such a thing would have been DRIVEN out of business…and what a great testament that would have been for the country. Instead, they were forced to ‘comply,’ and because they still had such hate within their walls, they muttered and murmured and fomented hatred under their breaths, creating the tensions that folks went through back then.
And THAT’S what young Dr. Paul was talking about…doing things sensibly, not being racist. Good God…if someone as dumb as me can see that, why can’t everyone else?
some things are so wrong on such a basic level, they should not be allowed. period. not in our country. when someone asks an american if such places are allowed, a simple one syllable answer should suffice. not a long explanation.
I think we could all agree, and that Rand Paul would agree, that we wouldn’t be happy with anybody that ran their business that way and we all would only hope that a good American would not do that. It was really unfortunate and unfair to Rand to bring up that question when it isn’t even the issue now that it was then. It was decided when the Civil Rights Act was voted on and Rand never made any issue with any of it until he was asked about it and then he gave an honest, thoughtful answer.
Not every person can be totally informed on all issues that have ever existed in the U.S., and there have been plenty of things for all of us to be divided on. I think that Rand and Ron Paul have both done very well to stick with current issues and to focus on the things that will help us with our current economic problems as well as the wars in the Middle East. I also believe that if more people were to listen to Ron Paul’s thoughts on the Federal Reserve and inflation and getting back to a real dollar that had some value, then a lot of the other problems that we face would fade away.
any and all ideas on the economy should be entertained. others are beyond discussion. the only reason paul was asked that question was because he himself had put his position in the public record. have you ever heard of ANY other politician being asked that?
Truthteller why should some topics be beyond discussion? If we don’t ask questions of our elected officials how will we ever know where they stand. On the subject of discrimination, I believe that the owner of a business should make ALL decision regarding how his business operates. These decisions can make the difference between staying open and closing the doors. He should be free to hire or fire people for any or no reason. With that said we also have the right to take our money elsewhere if we don’t like those decisions. I have not done business with a local chain of gas stations because of what the owner did right after September 11 (and the way he treats his employees).You can still do business with him if you wish. It is called a free market and it works if the government will leave it alone.
Just wanted to reply to what another poster said back there about the ridiculous sentencing guidelines for drug convictions. I, myself, don’t understand how they can give a meth manufacturer 20+ years, or the possibility of a life sentence. Yet, a child rapist/ murderer can sometimes only draw probation for the crime against that child/ren.
Is it me or is that just insane? I in no way am condoning meth manufacturing, but come on, someone who uses meth can more than likely recover from it’s effects. Can you say the same of the child who has been in the hands of some twisted individual for who knows how long?
I gotta go along with Nittymaki about that. There is sentencing disparity. We’ve all along said that the government doesn’t like meth making because it’s something that a person who can’t even follow a cake recipe can do, and in a little bit, not only get their own high, but make tons of IRS-free money by selling the product. The same could be said for pot, except that it takes a lot longer to produce a useable product in that respect than it does meth. Everything else: cocaine, heroin, pharm products, have to be created by someone else and brought into the community. That, we believe, is why meth and pot sentencing are so disproportionately high by comparison to other controlled substances.
We believe that if a substantially-comparable high could be gotten from something like dandelion greens or cattails, what would the government do, have yard weed eradication teams or ditch-monitors? It all has to do with accessibility. Which is, the government believes, something THEY need to be in control of. Just wait til they try that on FOOD.
But it’s a very good point: a victim of child sex abuse suffers forever. If there’s a suicide, or if they themselves offend (think Tyler Wolf on the latter), others suffer far, far more than a person who cooked himself a batch of meth suffers. We’re not meth supporters by any means, nor dope supporters by any stretch, but the sentencing disparity is an outrage.
@Niittymaki, thanks for your post. I couldnt agree more. The disparity between drug offenses and violent offenses is ridiculous. And before it is said, I have not/do not use illegal substances. But these sentences for drug offenses are ridiculous. particularly when you consider it costs us approx 20 grand a year to house someone in a prison. I would rather spend that money on someone that has harmed a child or committed some other act of violence.
You are right, but the solution is not to go easier on the drug dealers but to put the child molesters, etc. in jail for a longer period of time. It is supposed to be a deterrant not a discomfort.
Exactly what goneforgood said.
And what about investing more in Drug Rehabilitation services? If a person has ever tried to find one, especially if you have no insurance, good luck ! Prison isn’t always the answer. And DITTO with just me & shunned.
@dmin…ever had Dandelion wine or batter & fry dandelion tops?…talk about GOOD! and now I’m sure I’ve ran out of my alloted number of posts. So, I’m gonna hold my tongue ( even though that makes my arm tired and my fingers slippery ) and hold my breath ( my fan club can quit cheering cause I can’t get a deep breath much less hold it for long ) till your paper comes out ! :oups:
eileen, about your statement on drug rehab, that is one thing paul wants to cut along with other funding on the war on drugs. the cops in kentucky are upset at him for these reasons, not just because he says drugs are not a pressing issue. all the teabagers are frothing at the mouth because of the mexicans sneaking over the border and spreading their deadly mafia drug spree, but yet they claim paul as their favorite son. huh?
Please. If the Pauls were in charge, the border would be closed up—PER U.S. LAW—and the invaders would be sent home—PER U.S. LAW—and the problem would be reduced, not by half, but by a good 85 percent or more. The narrowsighted claim ‘drugs are the problem’; the people who are able to see the big picture try to figure out what to do to reduce drug use and drug availability instead of focusing on the immediacy of the petty users.
@ truthteller Why the hell should my hard earned dollars be taken away from me to pay for some asshole to go to rehab? If they hadn’t started the shit in the first place they wouldn’t need rehab. If they do they can pay for it themselves.
Nobody wants to take responsibility for their own actions amymore.
just me, i agree with you if the person has any money. a lot of druggies don’t. the reason it makes sense is because it is a money saver. if only a small percentage turn it around, it more than pays for itself. i’m sure we can all agree very few turn it around in prison. usually they just learn how to be a better criminal.
also, it should be an option only to the small or first timers. not big busts.
Either way it’s not my fault and I resent the government forcing me to fund it. If we got to keep more tax dollars I’m sure there would be several charities willing to take up the slack. If the prisons were run in such a manner that people really didn’t want to go back maybe they would try harder to go straight. Why is it they don’t have any money? They always seem to have enough money to buy their drugs.
it SAVES you tax dollars. then you can donate more. win, win!
This is why I am opposed to legalization. I really don’t care if people do their drugs……….until it affects me. When I am given the choice of paying for rehab(which I doubt really works that often anyway)and sending their sorry asses to prison, I vote prison every time. I really would be for personal freedoms such as drugs, gay rights and even the little morons at the icp concert if their actions didn’t affect other people around them including me. I had a teacher once that said your right to swing your fist ends at the other guys nose.
Was there any stolen items recovered in this raid?It seems there is a rash of theft going on in Saline and Gallatin Counties lately.
I don’t know…I can make a couple of calls when we get time (whenever that may be…)
Johnson and Pope have had a rather large amount of burglaries lately to. Mostly hitting cars in driveways late night. I think there were like 8 or 9 places hit in Pope a few weeks ago, then the following week several in Johnson then into Saline same night. Each week they hit bordering counties, they have stolen alot of expensive items in these areas. My sister called Johnson County at 10 the other night reporting she was home alone, someone was at that time as she was speaking to them trying to enter one of the vehicles. She could see them and told them she was alone with 5 kids. It took them 45 minutes to get there. Needless to say they left by the time officer arrived. He told her “Looks like they are long gone” shined a flashlight into field as if to look like he was concerned, then said “any more problems give us a call back”. If they would have been entering the home they could have killed them all, cleaned up the scene and left. The 911 system here is pitiful. Her house is not hard to find it’s right off the highway.
disgusted, i’m for certain limits on gun rights, such as assault rifles, but if ever there was a reason to blow someone’s head off, this sounds like it. he knew they were inside, right? that’s the kind of situation where you ask them questions later, if they’re still alive.
@ truthteller We almost agree on this one….note I said almost. T
The woman should have had every right to defend herself and her property. Unfortunately she is still in Illinois where we don’t have that right.(I blame the democrats)As for the assault weapons thing I believe that any law abiding citizen should have the right to own any gun he or she can afford and use it in self defense if required. We cannot expext the police to be there all of the time to do it for us. Again the personal responsibility thing.
i doubt any jury would find against a woman with five kids defending themselves in their own home. and in such a case, ie. close quarters, give me a pistol over an ak-47 every time. pistols were made for defense, not assault rifles. how do you think they came to use the term assault?
I know if I had anything to say about it she would be given a medal. I’m sure someone on here will say they were just stealing and not trying to harm her or her kids. This is why they aren’t afraid to do this crap because they know the laws are on their side. If she had shot one of them she would be in jail right now. The way I understand the law is that you have the duty to flee to the farthest corner of your home before you can use deadly force. For that situation give me a 12 guage anytime.
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you’re right. a shotgun does stop all forward motion, and covers a wider area. still, give me a pistol when you’re in tight quarters.
Agreed. On that note I’m going to bed. It’s been fun.