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Juggalos creating problems in Hardin

Juggalettes. Ain't they neat? They luv weed. And looking stoopid.

More Motifakes...they're full of Juggalos

Motifakes. They're so...motivational.

More Motifakes...they like to lambast Juggalos because they're so...well...lambastable.

They're all like this. All of them. Fingers and all.

HARDIN CO.—Looks like the Juggalos have started early.

Juggalettes. Ain't they neat? They luv weed. And looking stoopid.

We were in Elizabethtown yesterday so Ang could judge a pageant there (the annual Heritage Fest is going on) and we saw plenty of people, young and old, with Koolaid-colored hair, looking very much like Insane Clown Posse fans, aka Juggalos/Juggalettes.

What are these, you ask?

Well, just take a good look at the photo above here. We can’t really describe it because it defies description. Suffice it to say there just aren’t many words appropriate for such things as Insane Clown Posse fans that wouldn’t get us a TOS (Terms of Service warning) from our host, meaning we’ll really, REALLY be watching the comments that will no doubt follow this post, because, ICP fans, we’re not going to get flamed, I can guarantee you that. This isn’t your basic lukewarm mainstream media website that you get to crawl all over with your Androids and iPhones and fill up the comment boxes with vulgarity. You can, and will, be blocked here.

Gotta love Motifakes

This band, ICP, has been around since the evolution (if you can call it that) of ‘hip-hop’ and what is today called ‘rap’ dating back to the mid-80s. They developed into the band they are now about 10 years later, and have sharpened their sound and image since. They ‘sing’ (rap) about graphic subjects that usually involve killing, cannibalism, necrophilia, rape, dope, booze, and every other kind of vice and disgusting subject, all on the theme that it’s healthily cathartic and helps people to ‘get right’ with their God before ‘the end.’ We suppose they believe they have a direct line to God and presume to know what He’s thinking and that their methods of getting people to ‘change their ways’ have been approved. Most people don’t fall for this, and find the group’s music, called ‘horrorcore’ (hardcore rap) repulsive…as well as the fans who enjoy it.

More Motifakes...they like to lambast Juggalos because they're so...well...lambastable.

And why not?! These fans call themselves Juggalos (and Juggalettes) based on the lyrics of one of ICP’s songs that refers to the ‘Juggla’ (a juggler, we presume, and not ‘jugular’ as in vein, but it’s kinda hard to be certain even looking at the lyrics). And it’s the lyrics, dear reader, that makes the band so repulsive, because, unlike other ‘rap’ artists that basically are parodies of themselves (Eminem comes to mind), ICP takes themselves seriously. Which is sad, because most music critics don’t, and they’ve never won much critical acclaim (not that that’s saying much in this pop-culture-driven world). But hey, don’t let our words convince you….we won’t to do what other websites who are writing about ICP do and presume you know how repulsive they are. Instead, we’re gonna SHOW you!

The Juggla

Well, you know the juggla jumped in the mixer
Been down the road and I broke a few necks
And I’ll break a few more, so what’s up
Road by me on the corner, I’m a hold my n*ts up
Its finna f#*k you wit’ dat
But if you a sewer skank let me hit dat
Cuz I’m Violent J, ain’t even one to fake it
I wanna see some folded up skank b!tches naked
I pass out when it gets dark
And woke up naked at the Clark Park
Gotta go, gotta get before I get the wrap
Gotta chopped off head chilling in my lap
Mr. Shrink, Mr. Shrink, I’m sick
Lunatick-tick-tock, it don’t quit
It don’t quit, it don’t quit
Mr. Shrink, I’m sick, a lunaticky-tick
The doctor told me I’m a psycho
So I ate his face like I don’t know
Knife to the neck and got some more
The night of the axe, the night of the forty f*#k
B!tch, I’m a man you can talk ta
But after you leave I’m a stalk ya
If you’re a little kid I’m a take ya
And if you’re neck I’m a break ya
If you’re an old lady I’m a mug ya
Cuz b!tch, you can’t f*#k with the juggla

“Yes, ladies and gentlemen, he is…the juggla
He’ll cut your windpipe, eat your face
And slit your motherf*#king heart out
You can see this freak show at the world famous Carnival of Carnage
Keep juggling, motherf*#ker!”

[Violent J]
Cuz ya know the juggla will throw ya up fast
And if I drop you that’s your @$$
I shake and twist, try to keep calm
I might go to hell cuz I’m down with Esham
Gotta rhyme for your Uncle Willy
Then I hit him in the head with a Billy
Willy, Willy, watch your mouth
And f*#k the south
Running with a gang of twenty street hoods, yo
What’s up b!tch, ah, what’s up ho?
Sometimes you act like you ain’t down
With a psychotic wicked clown
F*#king my friends ain’t healthy
Cuz I grab you by the face and f*#k you up
And it’s like that b!tch that’s the way it is
I’m allowed to f*#k, ho, I’m in show biz
Sets in the hood want me for dead
So I paint my tag on they forehead
Stick your little ‘kay by my taggin’
You can fit twenty clowns in a Volkswagon
And we coming straight to your brick house
I’m a huff, and puff, and blow your f*#in’ neck loose
And then I might mug ya
Cuz they’re will be no f*#king with the juggla

“Juggling eyeballs, juggling heads
What you’ve heard about, what you’ve read
The juggling wicked clowns will come to your
Birthday party, wedding, and barmitzva
And cut your back off for a small fee
The juggla ain’t taking no shorts from nobody”

“Tweedle-dee and tweedle-doh
Let the f*#king bass go”

[Violent J]
And the juggla make it last
Down with 2 Dope and try n’ get trashed
My fellow f*#king fellas
Southwest gangster killas
Violent J, the psychopathic
Some might say I’m schitsofrantic
Others think I’m quite the psychic
But somehow the b!tches like it
What’s up b!tch, let me get the shot
Right here and now, butt-naked on the spot
Why am I like this, like that
Why are you like that, like this
The ghetto took my brain and motherf*#k I want it back
I’m that nerd in the back of the class
That went psycho and killed your @$$
I slash and cut and hack
With a “Kick Me” sign on my back
In my corner is scyne therapy
They take care of me, but don’t stare at me
Cuz like I said I’ll mug ya
Now run on home and don’t f*#k with the juggla

“Finally happened, the wicked clown have come to your town
And he’s got your daughter by the hand
Showing her a new land
The southwest ghetto zone, where all the jugglas roam
Come one, come all and have the juggla cut your face off
Skip to the lou”

Juggla juggla f*#k with the juggla
You can’t f*#k with the juggla
Tweedle-dee and tweedle-doh
Let the f*#king bass go

In’t that GREAT!   :/

They’re ALL like that. Every song. It’s unbelievable. And they’ve sold lots of ‘units,’ but nobody’s opinion who’s worth a damn likes them. And that includes the law, with whom they’ve run afoul repeatedly, with multiple charges of assault and battery, sometimes on their fans.

They're all like this. All of them. Fingers and all.

And most of the time, their fans are just like them—wannabes. They wannabe gangstas, beatin they b!tches & hoes, huntin theyselfs sum redneck chickens so they’s can cut em up & pull out they guts & bring em home to they chirrens fo suppah. Yes, there are A FEW Juggalos/lettes who don’t have criminal records, but folks would be amazed at how many peoples’ files we come across at courthouses who, when we do a little research into their backgrounds, they identify themselves on their MySpaces or other social networking sites as Juggalos.

So far, there have been only a couple of incidents in Hardin County (where the Juggalos are supposedly gathering this weekend for an ICP concert at the Hog Rock campgrounds) that are probably attributed to Juggalos. We won’t impugn this, though, until we get confirmation from ISP, for which we’ve asked already regarding a presser we received this morning. Seems there was a rollover wreck with a car full of young people, ranging in ages from 16 to 22, all of them from Pennsylvania. We don’t know that they were Juggalos/lettes here for the concert…but it is kinda suspicious.

Are we intolerant of this crowd? Yes. Why? because Hardin County is in our judicial circuit, and what affects the circuit—having to pay for out-of-county jail stays of young ignorant people having substance abuse issues; having the court bound up with out-of-state people who will never be back in the area again after getting busted for possession, fighting, etc, creating uncollected fines and fees; sending our police and ambulances (all funded by taxpayers’ dollars) all up and down our highways (not just limited to Hardin; there was a wreck in White County last year when a stoned Juggalette ran off Highway 45 outside of Mill Shoals trying to get home from an ICP weekend)—affects us. Further, what you put into your head is how you ultimately view the world and behave. Why fill your head with violence, sadism and brutality? There’s enough of that going on without it being couched as “entertainment.”

And we in southern Illinois have enough problems without this additional riffraff. This isn’t a bunch of older people on motorcycles being loud and having wet t-shirt contests. This is a bunch of young, impressionable people who should have a little more parental oversight and not get involved in ‘entertainment’ that’s meant to tear down and demean every person across every spectrum. There’s a “purpose” to this music, all right…but it’s not what’s being presented, and yes, we are intolerant of this kind of CRAP reaching the ears of our kids and affecting our pocketbooks negatively.

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668 Comments for “Juggalos creating problems in Hardin”

  1. Russell NY

    …ever wonder why the world wide recognized symbol for valentines day is a Cupid?..I mean really, what’s so romantic about a half naked toddler with a weapon?..(just my opinion)

  2. Sweet&Sour

    Russell NY, Yes, I have, which is why I voted the way I did on it. But, I still want my limerick from Denny… :) YOU, MY FRIEND, are the Talent of “Pomes” on here bur Denny didn’t do to bad with the limerick he wrote on here dedicated to me.. :)

  3. jon

    judging a pagent?? you sound just as bad as those juggalo fools.
    people should not be judged.

    • People are ‘judged’ every day. You just did it. “You sound just as bad as those juggalo fools.” wootwoot or whatever the f*^k they say….

      • Peterdunn70

        look here mother fucker u dont have any right say woop woop thats for JUGGALOS AND JUGGALETTES so b4 u go and dis on all of us y dont u look and this fucked up world we live in and see whats wrong with it b4 u single out one groupe of people so some of us get in trouble big fucken deal we r a family and not god damn site will change that so watch what u say b4 u have every one of us on here given u hell about disn us cuz we are fuckn sick of it

  4. J4lbitches

    I got an iPad (deleted—admin) so (deleted—admin) it!!!!!!!!! (Deleted—admin) ur (deleted—admin)!!! Juggalos are more that what all u (deleted—admin) give them credit for. Just cause a few (deleted—admin) in ppl
    Who are (deleted—admin) retards just so happen to be juggalos dosnt mean all of them are. So please for the well being of this (deleted—admin) website get your facts straight before saying all ur stupid (deleted—admin)!!! I like most juggalos am part of a huge (deleted—admin) in (the ‘in’ is actually supposed to be the suffix ‘-ing’ to the verb that was deleted—admin) family. All we do is look after eachother because of whatever (deleted—admin) up past brought us togeather. So go ahead an delete this comment and block my email a dress but do me a favor and know what your talking about befor you talk about it. Have a good day. Whoop whoop MMFWCL!!!!

  5. blake

    Wow… this website should be banned. Reason: This website is untruthful, full of lies, and run by and idiot who has no life what so ever. Good job makeing yourself look like an idiot.

  6. erica

    no offence, but one song proves nothing. check out the song “tear jerker” from Jamie Madrox. personlly i love this song,my parents devorced when i was little. i dont relate to music because its sick sounding, i relate because of the story told. ICP’s to catch a preditor, i relate to that because my mom was raped when she was a child. they speak about getting rid of pedophiles before they act and not caring that it’ll put them in a bad place.

    horrorcore isnt just words that sound bad. before you talk crap on something, do your research.

    I am a juggalette and i’m a senior in highschool. i’m in the top 1/3 of my class and i plan to go to a university in the fall of next year to become a music therapist.

    the reason you dont hear so much about the juggalos and lettes that are good is because they dont get in trouble..you dont exactly poll who is and isnt one everywhere you go do you??

    i think not.

    this article was way to biased to be taken seriously and i hope anyone who reads the article will see that.

    believe what you want, but nothing is as it seems.

    –Erica

    • Actually Erica….whether it’s biased or not, it’s the number three article on our website. Which is massive. So while there are plenty of websites out there devoted to ‘lo’s and ‘lette’s, this one is devoted to dissing them, which is what we think they deserve, top 1/3 of their class or not. Long live freedom of speech.

  7. Russell NY

    @Erica: A couple of observations as you embark upon your journey into higher education:
    1. It’s predator not preditor
    2. The usage of capitalization is rule based, not sporadic and whim based
    3. Divorced not devorced
    4. Contractions require the placement of ‘
    5. It’s too biased not to
    Here’s hoping you’re in the top 1/3 of a very small class, as the fish get more predatory in a larger pond. 8)

  8. erica

    na. i type how i think. when i’m writing papers and it actually matters, then i make sure my typing is correct in grammer and such. this article just made me angry as the disrespect shown as you go about doing as well.

    you can not fully ‘diss’ something you do not fully understand. you will never understand it unless you are a part of it.

    oh and incase your wondering, school of 300+ seniors.

  9. erica

    just made me angry with the diresprect shown as you also show towards me**

  10. Dennis J. Bridwell

    “diresprect” Wow Erica, if you are in the top 1/3rd of your class, I hate to think of the job prospects for the bottom 2/3rds. Backhoes, ditchwitches, etc have about made all of the ditch digging jobs obsolete.

  11. berta

    hey everyone is a humanbeing including the juggalos and juggalettes icp all that stuff…if anyone has a problem wit the then just ignore it just like u wanna ignore everything else that seems wrong in ur ife….no1 gets disrespect to a lo/lette whoop whoop to all the fam :p

  12. sanner90

    well the way i see it is its music do i like it no the way they dress kinda freaks me out but at the same time im in no postion to judge as im no better then them as for the spelling well hell who doesnt mispell words i know i do punctuation well as u can tell i dont use it lol but thats just me …. for those that dont like run on sentences can we blame the music on rapes and murders nope people already tried that with ozzy osbourne who i absoluting love can we judge the loos and lettes on the crime sprees that happen in hardin ehhh sometimes because as everyone who has ever been to a big gathering of people there are going to be a few bad apples in the barrel as for the hardship on hardin due to unpaid fines and the extra patrols needed to try and keep them in line maybe hardin county should start charging a set amout of money to offset the cost just an idea and as for dennis being an asshole well lol i have met him in person when he was an officer in my county and yes he can be but then again name one male that cant be one or one female that cant be a bitch when its needed lol just saying…. :)

  13. erica

    dennis, you know i spelled it right the first time. your just bored and finding such ways to entertain yourself as my misspellings.

    whoop whoop Berta!!

    Sanner90, i like the way you think. [=

    • Reginald

      I’m entertaining myself by correcting your horrible spelling, too.

      I.
      I’m.
      You.
      Your.
      You’re.
      We.
      We’re.
      were.
      They.
      They’re
      Their.
      There.
      It’s (it is).
      Its (possessive pronoun)

      Just a little spelling primer for you. Let me demonstrate how those words work.

      I’m in no way surprised that you’re in the top 1/3 of your class. It’s not hard to be the best in special ed. They’re not that smart there.

      I sincerely hope that you are not on my side of the country.

      Dear God,
      PLEASE let Erica be on the east coast or better yet, in the midwest, where she cannot harm others with her infectious stupidity. Amen.

    • Reginald

      I’m entertaining myself by correcting your horrible spelling, too.

      I.
      I’m.
      You.
      Your.
      You’re.
      We.
      We’re.
      were.
      They.
      They’re
      Their.
      There.
      It’s (it is).
      Its (possessive pronoun)

      Just a little spelling primer for you. Let me demonstrate how those words work.

      I’m in no way surprised that you’re in the top 1/3 of your class. It’s not hard to be the best in special ed. They’re not that smart there.

      I sincerely hope that you are not on my side of the country.

      Dear God,
      PLEASE let Erica be on the east coast or better yet, in the midwest, where she cannot harm others with her infectious stupidity. Amen.

  14. Jak

    I read, I write, and I attend a University, not a college (Yes, there’s a difference.) I also happen to have the intelligence to know that non-MLA formatted writing doesn’t require the best grammar in order to be accurate. I’m one smart son-of-a-gun. I don’t go around dissing people just to get out my anger. And I definitely don’t dis others because they don’t spell check and revise their online rantings. If I did, you’d all be getting a slap in the face. Anyway, for all of you that presume Juggalos and Juggalettes to be such bad seeds, I’ve never been arrested, I’ve given personal assistance to Police, and once again, I attend a University. Oh, and guess what… I’m down with the Clown. So, where my haters at?

    Insipidly yours,

    One upstanding citizen,
    A Juggalo

    • Anonymous

      If you’re one smart son-of-a-gun, Jak…you’d know where your haters are AT. They are behind the AT. I believe it would have been best to ask, “So, where are my haters?”
      Woot-woot to you for what-ever the hell that’s supposed to mean and believe me, I have no idea.

      • Randy

        You attend a university.. Yet you are seen in public with clown make-up on. Maybe you know basic grammar, but that evens out with your lack of professionalism and self-esteem. Anyone who honestly listens to the industrial noise people call ICP has to be semi-retarded as it is, let alone those who find it empowering and literally pretend to be them. Regardless of whether or not you attend a university, if you associate with such scum, then you have no future whatsoever.

        Sincerely,
        Reality.

      • Randy

        You attend a university.. Yet you are seen in public with clown make-up on. Maybe you know basic grammar, but that evens out with your lack of professionalism and self-esteem. Anyone who honestly listens to the industrial noise people call ICP has to be semi-retarded as it is, let alone those who find it empowering and literally pretend to be them. Regardless of whether or not you attend a university, if you associate with such scum, then you have no future whatsoever.

        Sincerely,
        Reality.

    • Meat Popsicle

      So tell me you smart sonofagun you, what would the no-talent hacks you so enjoy going down on be doing for a living if not fleecing a moronic, ever-shrinking fan base to feed their ignorant asses ? I think probably sucking farts out of bus seats for piece rate.

      • Anonymous

        Wow…… It is funny how people always make a judgment and stick with it.
        I’m a Lo and I’m a network engineer and have a bachelor’s degree in computer
        technology. It’s all about living on your own terms and people looking out for
        one another. We’ll probably didn’t change your minds about the Fam, but people
        will always show disrespect for what they don’t like for what ever reason. It
        happens. Well, love to the Fam

         

        MCL

          Gabriel 

      • Common sense would tell anybody that a bunch of people living on their own terms won’t do such a great job of looking out for one another, and that statement is at least somewhat proved by the treatment Tila Tequila got from the Juggalos.

        The only people looking out for her, she brought with her I think. How about the guy that got stabbed ?  Where was the Fam before he got into a jam that put his life in danger ?

        You guys are hypocrites as much as anybody else, every year ICP invites an act to be “whipping boy” for the express purpose of you juggalos having an act to disrespect and hate on. When you did it to Andrew WK, he OWNED every one of your asses, and the videos are hilarious.  

    • Meat Popsicle

      So tell me you smart sonofagun you, what would the no-talent hacks you so enjoy going down on be doing for a living if not fleecing a moronic, ever-shrinking fan base to feed their ignorant asses ? I think probably sucking farts out of bus seats for piece rate.

  15. Reginald

    Ugh. Having no class isn’t cool. Being a retard. Also not cool. Taking…I don’t know…presumably hours to paint your face like a clown and leaving the house in shitty pants you bought with your parents money at hot topic and walking around like you’re hard? Do I really even have to say it?

    What is it that’s so offensive about you little monkeys? I really don’t know. I can’t put my finger on it. It doesn’t change the fact, however, that when I see two or more juggalos walking down the street (juggalos cannot afford cars) with your ripped out jeans and shitty old sneakers, I just feel compelled to run them over. I haven’t yet but I’ve certainly thought about it a great deal.

    Maybe it’s that you’ve so clearly accepted mediocrity. You have actually DECIDED to be losers. I think that’s it!

    Up yours, losers.

    Thanks for the catharsis.

    • Alyssa Jackson

      Ever thought about the fact that Los and Lettes cant afford your expensive suits and ties for a reason? Do you realize how ignorant you sound? How you all sound? What ever happened to the love of America and our unique selves? I’m 13 years old. And I am a proud Juggalette. Run me over if you most, but at least I will die being myself other than what you want me to be. I’m happy with that. Pass the axe ;)

      • O my god.

        PLEASE go tell your parents to take away all your jugg shit and keep you from the TV and your skank ass friends so you can possibly grow up with a semblance of normalcy. Or we’re all doomed.

        • Alyssa Jackson

          No. What ya’ll fail to understand is, I make strraight A’s, work a part
          time job, do volunteer work, AND I am currently in 3 sports (To play
          sports you have to be drug  tested.) Now, Jack, I have no respect for
          you what so ever. You called me a skank. I’m 13 years old. I hope you
          can’t sleep for a few months, and you slowly die in a hole painfully.
          And I hope to god you don’t have children! I hardly ever paint my face for your information. Stereotype much? Yes.
          Some of my friends do smoke Marijuana, but here’s where you make your
          mistake! My friends AREN’T Juggalos/Lettes. My boyfriend? Also not a
          Jugglo. I have ONE Juggalo friend. Who is extremly careful to be
          respectful to women.! Yet again, I will give you the definition of
          Juggalo/lette: One who is simply themselves openly. Sweet, You seem the
          most respectful and I need to calm down so, obviously, I’m in no way
          heading down a bad road. So you don’t have to worry. I’m just a normal Juggalette.
          Yes, I am living with my mom and dad. However, that’s because I’m 13
          years old and have no choice. Juggs are a family. Not because of
          ICP…..Because of who we are. Danny. I have been a Lette for 3 years.
          And OMFG guess what?? More than Juggs want me. Because I dont front for
          people! ;) I think I’ve made my point. Fucking self absorbed
          assholes….I’m very disappointed in you Danny. I had hopes. >:( And  ALSO! I am a STRONNNNNGGG believer in Jesus Christ.

          • You’re also BANNED, you little bitch.

            No one comes on my website and spews the kind of filth you just did. You don’t call my regular readers “self-absorbed assholes,” you don’t tell you me hope I die slowly and painfully, and you don’t come on here with an email address of “alyssalikesdudes” and expect me to believe that you’re a 13-year-old with a job that does volunteer work and plays 3 sports. Because if this is something you do, AND you proclaim you’re a lette, AND you’re all up in yourself because ANYBODY “wants you” (when we were 13, we didn’t know what “wanting” somebody WAS), then you are the kind of trash that we write about regularly who have a juvie record as long as your arm by the time you begin to be charged with adult crimes and are sitting in DOC by the time you’re 18. And we don’t want that kind of trash on here, especially the kind who tries to get people to believe that it’s okay to wish a curse on someone and still be a STRONNNNNNNGGG believer in Jesus Christ. STFU.

          • LOL our two posts read like “good cop-bad cop” I would’ve held up for you better on the die-in-a-hole thing but I thought you didn’t care that much what they said per one of your other posts. I also didn’t want to get assy with a 13 yr. old although I did wonder if that was a bit of trolling.

            Speaking of trolling, a while back I searched for juggalo forums, and I couldn’t find a thing that had been posted to more recently than 2 yrs. so it would seem your site has more juggalo activity than forums that were made just for them. 

          • I don’t believe she’s 13, first and foremost. I think we’ve been had.

            Secondly, I’m having kind of a bad day. Chris keeps wanting me to put up some “rules” for posting, but there are only two: Don’t disparage my readers, and don’t disparage Disclosure. Easy peezy. But there might have to be a third rule: use your ESP to determine whether Jack’s having a bad day. And that just isn’t exactly fair.

            The Jugg posts are the MOST HIT on this website, period. The los and lettes can’t believe someone isn’t sucking up to them and letting them “be what they wannabe.” We took issue with that crap after there was a wild argument on the Southern Illinoisan in 2007 over the Gathering. We swore if we could ever get a website up and running, we’d expose these fools for what they are instead of going along to get along, like mainstream media does. That’s why this thing has gotten so out of control—because msm doesn’t call em as they see em. We do. And the juggaduds can’t stand it, so they come here and check to see what’s being said about them.

            And yes, I usually take the position of the “bad cop”….you, on the other hand, are very diplomatic! You are a better man than I, for sure.

          • Not having any insight from the back end, I will always step off when somebody plays the “I’m a kid” card. And now that I can put the biz into motion, I find I’m keeping my thoughts to myself more, not just here but all the way around. That’s one reason I like this thread so much, it’s hard to imagine anybody having an issue with it if I want to entertain myself sparring with ’los every now and then.

            I wouldn’t say I’m a better man than you by any stretch of the imagination, I would’ve had a brain aneurysm a long time ago doing what you do and dealing with the associated crapola. Honestly I doubt if I could carry your lunchbucket on my best day, and I’m also lucky in that everybody in my family is healthy and everything is really stable. I’ve got about as good a position to go forward with the biz that I could ask for, and I’m sure once things start moving, that’s going to matter..a LOT.  

          • Anonymous

             Jack, not a better man, maybe just more patient.

          • Anonymous

            Jack, it is hard to believe that she is only 13 years old for sure, I totally agree.
            I hate to hear that you’re having a bad day…as if, you don’t have enough to deal with on a daily basis. I can ALMOST guarantee you have more patience than most of us would ever be able to tolerate without going completely off on here! That’s a fact. Period.
            I think the ESP comes in when you do not comment on here for awhile and just let the post comments go on until people start to disrespect you, your family, your regular readers/post commenters, your website and your life in general! That’s just my take on it. I may be wrong but…I don’t think so!
            I hope your day gets better. Tell Ang I said “Hi”. Take care, my friends!

          • I only ended up here cause I was like that pic of the Lette wit the face painted on her Baby Belly is awesome n I thought it was linked to a Juggalo Forum site, I found this when I arrived and I make it my business to re-educate ninjas on whut it is to be Juggalo, there is a lot of Bullshit flying around these days and it needs correctin

          • Anonymous

            Yeah, I thought about that baby in the belly of that “Lette” too and wondered what were that child’s chances of growing up to be anything other than a mongoloid idiot with a mother like that.

          • I’ve often wondered about that baby myself, the pic gave me a great idea for a short film which I don’t have time to follow up on, maybe someday.

          • Like I said in a post a few months ago, I don’t think that is a picture of the baby. It is a police artist sketch of the babydaddy. Kind of a wanted poster. That’s all the description she could give because they just met up at the last gathering and all she could remember about him was that he looked like a clown. Besides, she was pretty wasted and he was the only guy in the line that she could remember.

          • @David….OMG ROTFLMFAO

          • Anonymous

            Jack, Just making sure I wasn’t banned as well..lol

          • Absolutely you’re not banned. And, Ang said “hi!” back. We’re now BOTH currently having bad days. Hopefully tomorrow will be better. At the risk of getting every Juggalo and Juggalette to come out of hiding and flame the site, GOOD NIGHT EVERYBODY! Production week has begun. :/

          • Anonymous

            Jack, I knew I wasn’t. That was a haha. It is almost tomorrow and I hope for you and Ang a better day and many more to come. I know it’s gonna be very busy for you since you have two print editions this month. If we can be of any help, please let us know. Goodnight…

          • So it’s ok for you and your regular readers to call a 13 year old girl a skank and make the many slanderous and horrible comments that you have towards us but when we call you assholes we get banned? Who is that needs to grow up again??

          • @Ali-Cat: What part of ‘That’s not a 13-year-old, we’re being played’ did you not GET? Spare us your opinion; you obviously don’t know what “slander” is. LOOK IT UP.

          • Well you’re not the first female to find me a disappointment for one reason or another ;) and I’m happy to give you the benefit of the doubt as to the truth of the claims you make about yourself. However, I still maintain that you wouldn’t be safe at an event like the Dork Carnival and that neither ICP themselves nor the avg. ‘lo would face off with a crowd (like the assholes that went after Tila last year) on your behalf.

            I also maintain that my derision for ppl who are all about their status as a ‘lo or ‘lette is actually shared by ICP themselves. 

            Anyhow, have a long, happy and safe life, I wish ya the best and hope that you never have reason to regret the faith you place in the ‘lo/’lette family. I tend to think of myself as less self-absorbed than a lot of ppl, but we hardly ever see ourselves the way other ppl see us, so maybe I’m wrong in that although I would bet that the few ppl who know me best would tell you I’m more guarded than self-absorbed.

            My favorite bands are Megadeth and Rage Against The Machine. I just never could go for any outfit in face paint after KISS beat it to death yrs. ago. Give Rust In Peace a listen sometime, best thrash album EVER. 

          • Anonymous

            Alyssa, honey, I try to be understanding of everyone’s points of view, being themselves and expressing how they feel and think about things. This is why I love Disclosure, the people who allow our thoughts & opinions to be put here, (Jack&Ang) and the commenters. However, I believe you crossed the line with wishing  no sleep to Jack for a few months and a slow painful death in a hole for him. That IS NOT Christ like at all. We can all have differences of opinions but never should we wish any kind of ill health, death or negativity upon our fellow man. I pray God will forgive you for wishing that on Jack. I really do hope you will be okay. You seem so well educated for only 13 years of age. Don’t waste it, okay? You take care!!

      • Sweetie, it’s not about what we want you to be. Don’t confuse ppl trying to pull you out of a mold with being shoved into one.

        Here’s the dealio right here – Starting from 13, after 2 yrs. as a ‘lette, nobody else but a loserly juggathug is ever going to want you. You have jumped on the bandwagon of one of  societies lowest common denominators, and what’s really sad is that you keep talking about individuality, but show nothing but conformity with a philosophy sold to you by a couple of dudes who could care less about you. This fam crap is just empty words, ICP would stand by and watch 41 juggathugs gang rape you, laughing the whole time, and then go home and sleep like babies.

        It’s natural for someone your age to want to be part of a group and be accepted by them. No probs there. But you are actually surrendering what is unique about you, and it will be buried so deep in BS you’ll never find it again.

        The FAM is a SHAM. Get out while you can.  

      • Anonymous

        Honey, it really isn’t about expensive suits or ties. If they took the money they use for the painting of their faces and bodies and put to good use rather than trying to cover up who they really are, I think that could possible help. I, personally will never listen to that kind of music which seems to be full of very angry, hateful, vulgar language messages! There’s enough negativity in the world without subjecting ourselves to more. You’re very young and I pray you change your way of thinking in the next chapter of your life. We all have chapters in our lives that we hope to live and tell about. Please don’t make yours a short story!

  16. Jesse

    It’s so funny that, even though you hate Juggalos, you’ve created a forum especially for us. You take time out of your day and devote it to us by posting your comments. And all that you can really say about us is that we dress weird and can’t spell. But, if any of us really cared whether or not other people approved of the way we dress, we wouldn’t dress that way. Is it really so bad that we have found a place to belong in a world so condescending towards people that might be a little different? Yes, our thoughts and opinions might be a little out of the box, but when was the last time someone “normal” did something great? Van Gogh would have been a Juggalo. Socrates would have been a Juggalo. Galileo would have been a Juggalo. And you will accomplish nothing that anyone will ever talk about because you are so hell-bent on being “normal.” By the way, I see your information is very one-sided. The writer wouldn’t happen to be Bill O’reilly would it? LOVE TO THE FAM!!! WHOOP WHOOP!

  17. Jesse

    It’s so funny that, even though you hate Juggalos, you’ve created a forum especially for us. You take time out of your day and devote it to us by posting your comments. And all that you can really say about us is that we dress weird and can’t spell. But, if any of us really cared whether or not other people approved of the way we dress, we wouldn’t dress that way. Is it really so bad that we have found a place to belong in a world so condescending towards people that might be a little different? Yes, our thoughts and opinions might be a little out of the box, but when was the last time someone “normal” did something great? Van Gogh would have been a Juggalo. Socrates would have been a Juggalo. Galileo would have been a Juggalo. And you will accomplish nothing that anyone will ever talk about because you are so hell-bent on being “normal.” By the way, I see your information is very one-sided. The writer wouldn’t happen to be Bill O’reilly would it? LOVE TO THE FAM!!! WHOOP WHOOP!

    • No, dumbass, WE didn’t create a forum. We posted a factual article about the pain in the ass you juggheads cause for South Counties. All you moronic wigger wannabes—violent, sadistic, doped-up, sick in the head from listening to repulsive lyrics idiots—”made it a forum.” I don’t prevent you from clicking because it’s the #2 destination, of thousands of posts, for people from all over the world to read about the reality of juggmorons. So you can fantasize all you want to, but the fact is that none of the fine minds you listed would have had anything to do with the likes of you, your greasepaint, your weird hair/clothes, your idiotic music, your horrific behavior, and your disgusting general smell. And remember: you need “normal” in order to DEFINE yourselves. You need “everybody else” in order for your skank asses to BE different. If we were all like you, what would be the fun in that? What would you then have left to bitch about? Because god knows you have to bitch about SOMETHING.

    • William

      Van Gogh created art which was liked by many, yes this is true, yet there are many definitions of art. Socrates created philosophical ideas that many follow, ICP is no philosophy except for the rapists and murderers if you even glanced at their lyrics you would know. Galileo is a science prodigy explaining the Heliocentric model of the universe. You can’t tell me that ICP will help us understand the universe. ICP is a band, maybe it does have appealing music to some, but it isn’t a lifestyle.

    • This is my first time on the site, just happened to stumble across it, but here goes:

      Miracles, by Insane clown posse (2 Excerpts);

      “Look at the mountains, trees, the seven seas
      And everything chilling underwater, please
      Hot lava, snow, rain and fog
      Long neck giraffes, and pet cats and dogs
      And I’ve seen eighty-five thousand people
      All in one room, together as equals
      Pure magic is the birth of my kids
      I’ve seen shit that’ll shock your eyelids
      The sun and the moon, and even Mars
      The Milky Way and fucking shooting stars
      UFOs, a river flows
      Plant a little seed and nature grows
      Niagara falls and the pyramids
      Everything you believed in as kids
      Fucking rainbows after it rains
      There’s enough miracles here to blow your brains
      I fed a fish to a pelican at (Friscal?) bay
      It tried to eat my cell phone, he ran away”

      “Stop and look around, it’s all astounding
      Water, fire, air and dirt
      Fucking magnets, how do they work?
      And I don’t wanna talk to a scientist
      Y’all motherfuckers lying, and getting me pissed
      Solar eclipse, and vicious weather
      Fifteen thousand Juggalos together
      And I love my mom for giving me this
      Time on this planet, taking nothing for granted
      I seen a caterpillar turn into a butterfly
      Miracles ain’t nothing to lie”

      Are you really comparing these guys to Galileo, Socrates and Van Gogh? – “F***ing magnets, how do they work?”

      I studied Physics, and also Chemistry and Biology, at university level. There are answers for all these things. If you won’t ask a scientist, at least consult wikipedia.

    • This is my first time on the site, just happened to stumble across it, but here goes:

      Miracles, by Insane clown posse (2 Excerpts);

      “Look at the mountains, trees, the seven seas
      And everything chilling underwater, please
      Hot lava, snow, rain and fog
      Long neck giraffes, and pet cats and dogs
      And I’ve seen eighty-five thousand people
      All in one room, together as equals
      Pure magic is the birth of my kids
      I’ve seen shit that’ll shock your eyelids
      The sun and the moon, and even Mars
      The Milky Way and fucking shooting stars
      UFOs, a river flows
      Plant a little seed and nature grows
      Niagara falls and the pyramids
      Everything you believed in as kids
      Fucking rainbows after it rains
      There’s enough miracles here to blow your brains
      I fed a fish to a pelican at (Friscal?) bay
      It tried to eat my cell phone, he ran away”

      “Stop and look around, it’s all astounding
      Water, fire, air and dirt
      Fucking magnets, how do they work?
      And I don’t wanna talk to a scientist
      Y’all motherfuckers lying, and getting me pissed
      Solar eclipse, and vicious weather
      Fifteen thousand Juggalos together
      And I love my mom for giving me this
      Time on this planet, taking nothing for granted
      I seen a caterpillar turn into a butterfly
      Miracles ain’t nothing to lie”

      Are you really comparing these guys to Galileo, Socrates and Van Gogh? – “F***ing magnets, how do they work?”

      I studied Physics, and also Chemistry and Biology, at university level. There are answers for all these things. If you won’t ask a scientist, at least consult wikipedia.

      • Anonymous

         He isnt asking literaly how they work he’s saying it because as a kid he thought magnets n how they work was the shit n now most people dont care hes saying appreciate the miracles

      • As someone else with the last name Byrne I am really offended by the misrepresentation of Byrne intelligence. MIRACLES IS TRYING TO MAKE THE POINT THAT PEOPLE ARE TRYING TO HARD TO EXPLAIN LIFE TO JUST SIT BACK AND APPRECIATE THE SIMPLE WONDERS IN LIFE. LIKE HOW MIRACULOUS IT IS THAT THE SUN RISES EVERYDAY, OR THAT TREES FILTER THE AIR WE BREATHE! THE UNIVERSE IS A BEAUTIFUL PLACE FULL OF WONDERFUL AND BEAUTIFUL THINGS, STOP THINKING YOU CAN EXPLAIN EVERYTHING AND ANSWER ALL OF LIFE’S MYSTERIES AND JUST APPRECIATE THEM FOR ONCE!

  18. Anonymous

    You know, Jesse, I don’t think you really understand. Nobody HATES the Juggalos and no forum was created especially for them. They just happened to be a news items, that’s all. And if the Jugs want to gather in mass, nobody cares about that either. Just do it somewhere else besides Hardin County. That seems to be all it would take to eliminate being on this forum.
    You are wrong about Van Gogh, Socrates and Galileo. They would never have taken to the kind of world that the Jugs/Jugettes live in. They had class. Whoop-whoop…or whatever.

    • eileen ovaclosa

      Whoop-whoop…I’m crackin up here hannah_real…btw, why the name change? Were you not for real before?

      • Hardluck Hannah

        You know, eileen, I knew you’d ask me that. I didn’t want to change it but it wouldn’t work the other way, kept telling me somebody already had that name. Assumed it was me, but couldn’t get my own name back with this new program. I know Jack is busy or else I’d ask him to fix it for me he did for sweets. Maybe later. Trust me…I’m for REAL. ;-)

  19. Anonymous

    Is anyone else having the same problem I am? Jack posts and it’s nowhere to be found. Maybe he’s supposed to log in too. ;-) I’m teasing you, Jack. And by the way, where’s the ghost? Is it gone?

    • The ghost may be gone.

      Or, he may have just been joined by gremlins, imps, and other demonic creatures of perpetual frustration…which is what we’ve had ever since this upgrade. Such as it is.

      • Anonymous

        Hang in there, Jack…and keep the faith. It’s bound to get better. Just takes a little getting used to, that’s all. Don’t worry, eileen, Sweets and I will hang in here with you. ;-)

      • Sweet & Sour

        I miss our Ghost and the time we all spent together and I am sure Hannah and Eileen will agree!!!! Maybe, just maybe, the Ghost will take on a new way of capturing us…. sure was fun while it lasted! Please don’t leave us Ghost….LOL!

        • Sweet & Sour

          WTHeck? I am now Sweet &Sour???? I’ll wait for everything to be worked out though…I can only imagine what you and Ang are having to deal with on your side of it….Whew! Bless your hearts!!!

  20. I’m trying it this way, Hannah.

    @Jesse: No, dumbass, WE didn’t create a forum. We posted a factual article about the pain in the ass you juggheads cause for South Counties. All you moronic wigger wannabes—violent, sadistic, doped-up, sick in the head from listening to repulsive lyrics idiots—”made it a forum.” I don’t prevent you from clicking because it’s the #2 destination on our website, of thousands of posts, for people from all over the world to read about the reality of juggamorons. So you can fantasize all you want to, but the fact is that none of the fine minds you listed would have had anything to do with the likes of you, your greasepaint, your weird hair/clothes, your idiotic music, your horrific behavior, and your disgusting general smell. And remember: you need “normal” in order to DEFINE yourselves. You need “everybody else” in order for your skank asses to BE different. If we were all like you, what would be the fun in that? What would you then have left to bitch about? Because god knows you have to bitch about SOMETHING.

    • Anonymous

      Oh boy! You told it exactly like I wanted to, Jack. But I was trying to be nice AGAIN. Wish I had some of your spunk. ;-)

    • You people are stupid….i am a Juggalo and college educated…I am NOT a wigger or wanna be….Just because people like to let loose and have fun in a different way than you does not mean they are wrong. Get your heads outta your asses and open your eyes and see that its people like you talkin hardcore shit about other people that causes the problems. And people that are not Juggalo/lettes are not the only people that Smoke weed and stuff….I keep my hatchet swingin and show family love every time i see a Hatchet Man ANYWHERE. Get a life…Haters will hate…and thats all you are

    • You people are stupid….i am a Juggalo and college educated…I am NOT a wigger or wanna be….Just because people like to let loose and have fun in a different way than you does not mean they are wrong. Get your heads outta your asses and open your eyes and see that its people like you talkin hardcore shit about other people that causes the problems. And people that are not Juggalo/lettes are not the only people that Smoke weed and stuff….I keep my hatchet swingin and show family love every time i see a Hatchet Man ANYWHERE. Get a life…Haters will hate…and thats all you are

  21. Meat Popsicle

    http://juggalogathering.com/2011/index.htm

    I’d rather pay $ 200 to see an Emperor penguin fart Sinatra songs for an hour than spend a week with these fools if they comped me everything. Apparently they realize they’re the most hated band in the world, and are kinda into it. My sympathy goes out to Hardin Co.

    • Meat Popsicle

      After reflecting on this further, an Emperor penguin reminds me too much of a dumbass juggathug, let’s make it a platypus. They look like about 5 different things, but at least they don’t remind me of a poop-flinging monkey/mime hybrid.

      LOL, Dork Carnival not Dark Carnival. See there, you dorks have got me replying to myself.

      Comedian > Monkey/Mime

    • eileen ovaclosa

      There’s NOTHING that can compare to an Emperor penguin farting Sinatra songs!!! Gotta love it…do whoop op my do whoop dooo do whoop oh my dooo…oh, never mind, that’s Hanson.

    • eileen ovaclosa

      There’s NOTHING that can compare to an Emperor penguin farting Sinatra songs!!! Gotta love it…do whoop op my do whoop dooo do whoop oh my dooo…oh, never mind, that’s Hanson.

      • Hardluck Hannah

        And Jack’s got another double post of the same message. Bet it makes him want to spit. What do you think, eileen?
        Hey Sweets, better go battin down the hatch on that boat. It heading this way again.

  22. Whttdog

    fuck this haten site man im a juggalo and damn proud so if u dont like the way i am tryn and change me bitch boys

    • Hardluck Hannah

      I have yet to understand why Jack allows someone like you “Whttdog” to even post on this forum. You’re obviously not wrapped too tight and you’re just taking up space. There are three classes to STUPID and they are (a) stupid; (b) stupider; and (c) stupidest. Guess where you fall, dog? Whoot-whoot.

      • LOL…I let em post mainly because I view these ignoramouses largely as subhumans, therefore their opinions of me, my site and my readers are literally of no consequence to me.

        In other words, I let em post so I can get the clicks.

        WHOOP WHOOP!!

        • Hardluck Hannah

          I never thought about it that way, Jack. Iwon’t say another word. Well not about the jugs anyway…. WHOOP WHOOP!!! or WHOOT WHOOT or whatever. hee-hee.

  23. Whttdog

    fuck this haten site man im a juggalo and damn proud so if u dont like the way i am tryn and change me bitch boys

  24. Whttdog

    fuck this haten site man im a juggalo and damn proud so if u dont like the way i am tryn and change me bitch boys

  25. Whttdog

    fuck this haten site man im a juggalo and damn proud so if u dont like the way i am tryn and change me bitch boys

  26. Meat Popsicle

    To the tune of “Strangers In The Night” –

    “Juggalos In The Night”

    Juggalos in the night, combining bad genes
    stumbling ’round at night, creating crime scenes
    Some will be in cells before the day is through

    The stoopid in their eyes seems to incite us
    And something in their smiles says gingivitis
    August in Hardin will be a freaking zooooooooooooo

    Juggalos in the night who are these people ?
    These Juggalos in the night
    When they first said “Let’s have a show” little did we know
    Our peace would slip away will it return one daaaaaaaay ?

    These smelly Monkey/Mimes when will they go home ?
    Who failed to lock their cage allowing them to roam ?

    Someone relieve us of this blight
    These Juggalos in the niiiiiiiiiiiiight

  27. Meat Popsicle

    To the tune of “Strangers In The Night” –

    “Juggalos In The Night”

    Juggalos in the night, combining bad genes
    stumbling ’round at night, creating crime scenes
    Some will be in cells before the day is through

    The stoopid in their eyes seems to incite us
    And something in their smiles says gingivitis
    August in Hardin will be a freaking zooooooooooooo

    Juggalos in the night who are these people ?
    These Juggalos in the night
    When they first said “Let’s have a show” little did we know
    Our peace would slip away will it return one daaaaaaaay ?

    These smelly Monkey/Mimes when will they go home ?
    Who failed to lock their cage allowing them to roam ?

    Someone relieve us of this blight
    These Juggalos in the niiiiiiiiiiiiight

  28. how stupid can people be? oh god, America is going down…

    • Anonymous

      Juggaloes & Juggalettes stupidity rivals their uglyness.

      • Old Fart

        very well put dennis 

      • I find that pretty damn offensive! I am intelligent as well as kinda pretty…

      • I find that pretty damn offensive! I am intelligent as well as kinda pretty…

        • Old Fart

          Your not to damn intelligent…You’re a Jugghead and its obvious brains are not a part of your daily living.  You can be offended all you wish by this and others but your repulsive lifestyle offends the rest of us…So quit whining your face paint is gonna be running!  I also bet the only thing thats makin you look pretty is the war paint…if you actually thought you was pretty you wouldnt be with a bunch of low lifes like these and running down what could otherwise be a good image…We aren’t dumb and knieve on here either.  If you think you seriously are pretty I would hope you would use your self proclaimed intelligence to get the hell away from the juggheads before they infect you with something ajax wont wash off.  This is my advice take it or leave it and you even have the right to be offended as it will not affect me one little tidbit either way but the prison life your working up to might affect you!

      • Old Fart

        Dammit Dennis, Why you making this pretty little warpainted mistress cry for?  You Meanie :)

    • Old Fart

      apparently people  can be pretty damn stupid as you can see in the pics and thru the info lol 

  29. Anonymous

    i love the stereotypes about us that im seeing here its really makin me laugh 1 juggla is one song by icp try lookin up miracles or pass me by or the unveiling, everybody looks at the ugly side of icp n never the good n 2 as far as how juggalos/lettes act we are people normal people act the same way at times only difference is we do it more because we want to have fun n we dont care what you think and your opinion is your opinion im just giving mine   D.O.A the juggalo

    • HAHAHAHA. I mean, there’s plenty of stupid music out there, so I’m fine with ICP because, frankly, if you complain about ICP why not complain about EVERYTHING else in the music industry.

      But I’m sorry, did you say ‘Miracles’???

      Isn’t that the song that started the internet phenomenon  “f*cking magnets, how do they work?”.

      Listen to ICP, but don’t think you really have an intellectual argument at all for them, lol. In reality, it’s just more music, so who cares.

      • REAL musicians care, usually.

        My wife is one of those.

        When you’re in a particular industry, and you’re an expert in your field, top of the line, best of the best, in demand for your skills or talents, you have a tendency to look at the amateurs and go “What. Tha. Fuck.”

        That holds true whether you’re a coal mining technology engineer, an emergency room nurse, a speech therapist, a crime scene investigator or a musician. When you spend more than 15 years of your life learning four different instruments and specializing in the voice as an instrument, then 25 years of your life putting those instruments to use in every possible venue available, you kind of have a sneer on your face when you see/hear something like the trash that is ICP.

        It’s not “just more music.” It’s not music at all; it’s noise. There is no such thing as “just more music”; some people can never get enough music if it’s real music.

        And then some people don’t know the difference, and promote garbage as music.

        But then that’s what happens when close relatives breed.

        • Old Fart

           Jack we may or may not agree on everything but on this issue I agree wholeheartedly and this Dean Sofer fellar would be griping if it was a gospel tune i would bet.  Anyhow it is ridiculous to call this racket anything other than garbage/noise/a waste of ones time!  If this is what is taking the place of a good ole country song, soft rock, gospel, oldies or whatever else I commonly listen to then I will be taking the radio out with the crappy satellite company called hughes net which I am finding out is a rip just like the type of noise you have refered to in this article and your post.  Personally dynamite goes a long way with radios/ instruments/any other pieces/attachments that make this noise possible….idk whether to say KER…BANG or KABOOOOOM but that would be better noise than what they are makin and perhaps those middle fingers could be inserted into an orifice of their bodies ears or ass it makes no mind to me!  I assure you we would be called terrorist if we tried that but you know an uprising is what this country is real close to needing and perhaps it would wake these idiots up to something a little more productive with their time

      • Old Fart

        this takes stupid to a whole new level its downright insane to say this is even remotely close to being called music…what we have here is a mosh pit type of crowd that is doped up and strung out and makin a racket with their toys and usin their finger tellin everyone they are #1…they need a wake up call and be told/showed by whatever means humanly possible that this is not acceptable behaviour.  If this were one of your children depicted in this article I could only hope you would have a problem with it and not want your own flesh and blood starting down this road that will either get them killed or wind them up in prison.  I ask is this how you want your kids to live and live their life in prison or be dead?  You probably say im being ridiculous but every dope addict knows that they didnt start out on the big stuff they started with something small and worked up to the stuff that got em in trouble.  Not to many of them got caught using the crap the first time and much like this scenario they may have not started big but by golly they are working up to it. 

  30. For anybody that’s interested, or stays up late enough, the Comedy Central show Workaholics will be a Juggalo related episode tonight. I think for most of us probably 10 pm. From the trailers it looks to be funny. Who knows, Hardin or Cave may get a mention due to the fact this is where they hold the Dork Carnival. 

  31. Anonymous

     WOW! I have never seen  such stupid white trash junk in one place. ICP fans must be the lowest, inbred, uneducated, and dirty group of people in the United States

    • Alyssa Jackson

       WOW! Have you seen our government? :D They are the worst! And the damn rich people who rob us poor folks. Sit pretty. Whoop. Whoop.

      • Anonymous

        I must agree with you on the Govt. mess, which is why it is up to us and our future generations to take it BACK! But, not in the way that will bring more violence, hatred and venom spewing amongst ourselves. How many other countries do you think are sitting back laughing at the U.S of America and our youth’s education(or lack thereof) and where WE are ALL headed? We are headed right to a dictatorship. We do not want that! We want self-reliant, self-sufficient citizens with little help from the government. Of course, there are always going to be people who need help and that’s fine. But, anyone who CHOOSES to make a career out of any kind of assistance and not making any kind of contribution back are only contributing to the problem. Just sayin, ya know..food for thought there. The Govt. is the worst, but only because they have been allowed to be for so long now!!

    • funny, I was just thinking that about all of you on this page who have an issue with  us Juggalos……you do realize your no better than Nazis right???

  32. Alyssa Jackson

    Hmm yeah see, not all their songs are like this. The mom song. Homies. Really? Are you a Juggalo or juggalette? Have you ever been? No. So stop judging. The definition of Juggalo/ette is being yourself. America was based on being able to be yourself. So why do you have an issue? Do you want me to judge you for being a close minded moron? Cause I can. Thanks! This Juggalette is down with the clown. ICP all day long!!

    • Most of us here reserve the right to call a turd a turd even if it has a birth certificate. And could care less how we’re judged by a dork in face paint that spends their day going down on another dork in face paint that will take their next dump on the bathroom floor in Wal-Mart.

      Always nice to hear from you guys though, stop in any time. 

      • Old Fart

        Hey Danny,

        Know what the best part of dating a Homeless Woman is?

        You can drop her off anywhere!!!

        • Anonymous

          Old Fart, OMG!!! I’m not Danny, but that was just too damn funny! ROTFLMBAO…LOLOLOLOLO..

          • Old Fart

            (To the Tune of Toys R Us Kid)

            I don’t wanna grow up
            I’m a retylin kid
            My mommy dropped me on my head
            And look what it did….

            Just another song I think of and no its not in favor of ICP or Juggahos

             

          • Old Fart

            (To the Tune of Toys R Us Kid)

            I don’t wanna grow up
            I’m a retylin kid
            My mommy dropped me on my head
            And look what it did….

            Just another song I think of and no its not in favor of ICP or Juggahos

             

          • Anonymous

            Old Fart, You are just too funny and hilarious! When I decide to grow up, I wanna be an adult…I think? LOL

            Toys R Us Kid?? Hmmm? I guess we all could go to WT…Ta! On the other thought, Nah…

          • Old Fart

            Who wants to grow up?  I’m bored lets go act like little kids and get a pizza and a cold beer 

    • Anonymous

      Stop judging? Ha! What on earth would someone want to dress up in some ridiculous outfits, paint themselves up to look like a moron for if they are not wanting to attract attention and other’s judgement? Of course they will get on here and claim to be a very successful person but I would be willing to bet that in “real life” there isn’t one in one hundred in that crowd that is capable of taking care of themselves nor will they be in the next 10 years. They are all living off of their parents or some sort of social program I bet. I would call them shitbags but that would be an insult to bags full of fecal matter.

      • Anonymous

        Hey Denny! Hadn’t seen you on here for awhile. I was starting to get worried about ya. I hope you’re doing okay. Take care, my friend!

        • Anonymous

          Hey Sweet, I was in Texas for a week attending a Galveston Police Department retirees reunion. I had a great time, seen some folks that I had not seen in over 10 years, swapped war stories, ate some good Texas BBQ and even consumed a few cold beers.  Spent a little time in Austin, took in the downtown sights and bright lights but was glad to get home and out of that crazy traffic. For some reason, Texans like to drive slow in the left (passing) lane and speed in the right lane, sort of confusing to a country boy. Hope you are doing okay, tell your hubby “Hey” for me.

          • Anonymous

            Denny, Wow! Sounds like you had a GREAT time. You were right in the area of my 23 year old daughter who moved there a little over 1 1/2 years ago with her fiance. When she and I were talking earlier this week, she said it hadn’t rained there in forever and was very dry. I told her of the flooding here, which she was aware of, and I told her that we would gladly share the water from here, if it were at all possible. Yes! She  has told me they drive crazy, but she loves it there. I absolutely will tell hubby you said “Hey”! We really enjoyed your company and can’t wait til we can all get together again. Glad your back.

      • Old Fart

         Ya Dennis the program is called Public Aid or Social Security Disability cuz God only knows what’s wrong with these LUNATICS!!!

      • Not every juggalo has crazy hair, we all paint our faces, not everyday, most Los/Lettes only do it for gigs, gatherings and special occasions. You don’t have to be so rude about it though. Its not like I go around insulting your face

    • Old Fart

      You say its a Judgement to say your crazy, stupid, looney, LAZY, Deadbeat, etc etc. ?  Well all of these are mere FACTS my dear so get a life skank!  Its not called music, its called a satanic ritual!  Satanism maybe legal but it isnt popular around here…So back to your HELLHOLE and leave the sane crowd alone…We don’t need any comments from the cheap seats! 

      • Satanic Ritual??? WHERE IN ANY ICP TRACK EVER DOES IT SAY THAT??

        • Old Fart

          Don’t get me started on religion you cum guzzling gutter slut! It does not have to specificallly say its satanic to be satanic. When you go out dresseed like whorish clowns sleeppin with everything that gets a hard on and you act like you do at the ICP concerrts all thats lleft out is the candles in your ceremony. Then you go out idolizing the things the songs portray, never focusing on the good lyrics yyou like to bring up on here. If you want to show me how goood off a girl you are then go out gget a job work as hard at retaining your job as you do upholding this satanic crap then get back at me in about 5 years and let mme know how its working out for you because until you work for a living and quit mooching off of society to pay for everything inclluding your satainic rituals you have nno right to despise or tell me anything nor do you have any right to advise me of how I choose to verbalize myself on here!

          • So what would you say to someone who is happily married, Lives in a nice home, works full time in a good job, is debt free, drug free, STD Free, and Still a fan of ICP / Psychipathic Records and a Juggalo? Am I scum? Am I gutter trash? Your hate-laced comments are ignorant.

            And also, What ever happened to the whole “Judge not lest ye be judged” hmm? If we as Juggalos and Juggalettes are so hated and scorned, than just ignore us. I’m sure that your parents taught you to better.

            And in this great country, we have a right to free speech and to choose our religion. I myself am Pagan as well as my wife. We do things that ignorant, mainstream religious people [Christians and Catholics mostly] might see as Satanic because they refuse to educate themselves on things they see and jump to rapid conclusions. I feel sorry for all you people who have no real reason to hate others just because of the way they dress, the music they listen to. If you talk to your average Juggalo, you would find that they are nice people who reserve judgement untill they know what it is they judge.

          • I’d say you have really piss poor taste in music, for everything else you got going for you.

          • Anonymous

            Mr. Assassin who is a Pagan that quotes from the Bible calls Christians and Catholics “ignorant mainstream religious people” yet wants us to believe that he is “Joe Mainstreet” by claiming to work, be married, etc.  I wish he would point out which of those pictured above are the “average Juggalo” that he claims are nice people.
            Why didn’t some of those nice Juggaloes step in when Tia Tequila was being battered by a mob of scumbags who everyone seemed to think were Juggaloes?
            What will the next Juggalo be that comes on here to boast about themselves, CEO of a Fortune 500 company? Maybe an astronaut.

          • Anonymous

            Mr. Assassin who is a Pagan that quotes from the Bible calls Christians and Catholics “ignorant mainstream religious people” yet wants us to believe that he is “Joe Mainstreet” by claiming to work, be married, etc.  I wish he would point out which of those pictured above are the “average Juggalo” that he claims are nice people.
            Why didn’t some of those nice Juggaloes step in when Tia Tequila was being battered by a mob of scumbags who everyone seemed to think were Juggaloes?
            What will the next Juggalo be that comes on here to boast about themselves, CEO of a Fortune 500 company? Maybe an astronaut.

  33. Alyssa Jackson

    Hmm yeah see, not all their songs are like this. The mom song. Homies. Really? Are you a Juggalo or juggalette? Have you ever been? No. So stop judging. The definition of Juggalo/ette is being yourself. America was based on being able to be yourself. So why do you have an issue? Do you want me to judge you for being a close minded moron? Cause I can. Thanks! This Juggalette is down with the clown. ICP all day long!!

  34. I must admit, over a decade ago when I was still in high school, ICP had a kind of comic appeal to me…..it was short lived. The thing these “juggalos/lettes” don’t realize, is that ICP is laughing at them. They have gotten thousands of bandwagon jumping youths to do exactly what they have rapped about in their songs…..conform, impersonate, pose and become a stereotype. They have said numerous times that anyone who takes the juggalo lifestyle seriously is an idiot…..and they are just in it for the laughs and the revenue from merchandise. Sheep….that is all today’s youth are.

    • Exactamundo – A creation they can laugh at..all the way to the bank. Especially when you consider that without becoming ICP, well, we’ll never know but avg. joes at best. 

  35. I must admit, over a decade ago when I was still in high school, ICP had a kind of comic appeal to me…..it was short lived. The thing these “juggalos/lettes” don’t realize, is that ICP is laughing at them. They have gotten thousands of bandwagon jumping youths to do exactly what they have rapped about in their songs…..conform, impersonate, pose and become a stereotype. They have said numerous times that anyone who takes the juggalo lifestyle seriously is an idiot…..and they are just in it for the laughs and the revenue from merchandise. Sheep….that is all today’s youth are.

  36. Anonymous

    Alyssa, if you are 13 years old and your folks are allowing you to get involved with this heap of garbage known as Juggaloes/Juggalettes and the ICP, then they need to be paying more attention to their parenting  job.  One day you will wake up and realize that you took the low road. Anyone can be a scumbag like these Juggs are, it doesn’t take any talent to be an unachiever, go to the warmer climates and look under the bridges, they are all over the place.  You do have the right to be yourself and do whatever you want when you grow up but for now, you are under your parent’s supervision. So wait until you are 18 and then tell me that your life’s ambition and goal is to be a useless sack of crap like these Juggs are. Better develope a taste for dumpster food because that is where you will be dining unless your folks are wealthy enough to make you a trust fund baby or you can get on some sort of government handout program because no employer would hire anyone looking like the walking dung-heaps pictured above.
    What happened to the youth that wanted to make something of themselves and be a productive member of society instead of a drain on it?

  37. Anonymous

    HHANNAH !…Where you be ?…I’m still totally lost when I come here. Guess this is one “ole dog” who can’t learn a new trick.

  38. Anonymous

    HHANNAH !…Where you be ?…I’m still totally lost when I come here. Guess this is one “ole dog” who can’t learn a new trick.

  39. I see so much about the negative aspects of my culture but hardly anything about the positive aspects. Everyone seems to forget that people with criminal records and lunatics are still people. We don’t all have families that love us, I know you so-called educated people may find that hard to believe but it’s true. MOST Juggalos/Lettes don’t have any real family they can rely on, or are just generally hated for no apparent reason, at least in being Juggalo it gives people like you a reason to hate them that isn’t as narrow minded as ‘he/she has a criminal record’ or ‘he/she didn’t even finish high school’. The music might be a bit intense but it isn’t made for everyone and there are some out there who find it quite uplifting and positive. In the sense that it reminds them they are not the only ones whose life sucks so badly they just want to watch everything burn and burn along with it happily. There are millions of us and some Juggalos/Lettes don’t even listen to ICP, it is more about the way you live your life. Everyone is happy to quote the violent angry seemingly pointless lyrics but no one quotes lyrics like “you put a slave owner on the one dollar bill and you wanna know why I kill people”  or “bombs are blowing up, cops are corrupt and all you care about is who the president f!*&ed”. Some Juggalos are not the most articulate and MOST Juggalos have a temper BUT we are in fact one the most open minded groups of people you will ever meet. We know a good cause when we see one and are happy to back it in any way possible. As for ALL of us being wannabe Gangsta and thugs, that is not the case, we speak that way because it just comes naturally from listening to so much ICP. That being said we have words that entirely our own, like the word Juggalo. People need to start accepting that being a Juggalo is a way of life, it is a part of who you are, at least to any REAL Juggalo. It is about Phamily and Unity and someone to have your back when there as no one before, if you actually listen to the music, REALLY hear whut it is saying then I think you will find it is pretty positive stuff.

    • Old Fart

      CUM GUZZLING CUTTER SLUTS GO HOME!!! Oh wait the water is out again after all this rain…my apologies, GET A JOB YOU BUM BUM BUM BUMS…MONEY DON’T GROW ON TREES YOU BUM BUM BUM BUMS BUM BUM BUM BUMS!

      • omg okay….did you have beer after the storm O.F.? Editing now…..

        • Old Fart

          No I just allowed my anger of their remarks to be verbalized a little to well…

          • Anonymous

            Way to make the Juggalo look like the reasonable, sane one there Farty.

          • Presuming, of course, that the Juggalo is telling the truth, and isn’t one of these half-intellectual/half-fried liberal “university” students who use their remote gift of eloquence to fool us slobs into believing they are what they say. Remember, anybody can be anything they want on the internet….and at least Old Fart is what he is, irl and on here.

          • Old Fart

            And I ain’t nobodys little bitch Lol. Sorry had to insert that. Errata iits impossible to please you which is possibly one of the reasons why your single, have no life and probably why your on here bitchin at me cuz you have annoyed everyone else….find something better to do than attack 2 week old comments. Oh and if you can’t stand my punctuation to bad I like it just fine!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

          • Old Fart

            And I ain’t nobodys little bitch Lol. Sorry had to insert that. Errata iits impossible to please you which is possibly one of the reasons why your single, have no life and probably why your on here bitchin at me cuz you have annoyed everyone else….find something better to do than attack 2 week old comments. Oh and if you can’t stand my punctuation to bad I like it just fine!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

          • Old Fart

            Don’t you have something elses you shuld be doing besides bein mean to me

          • Anonymous

            Ha.  Sorry.  You, of course, would never dream of being mean to anyone in this thread, so it’s not like you can dish it out but not take it or anything.  

            A pro-tip, though:  If you’re going to call someone stupid it’s generally a good idea to use something approaching proper English when doing so.

          • Old Fart

            You mean like….you must be strung out on acid and ICP or would you prefer me to use a common term such as go fuck yourself!

          • Anonymous

            I’ve got no problem with “go fuck yourself,” so long as it’s correctly spelled and punctuated.

          • Old Fart

            Well you better ne er get a droid u can’t spell on them nor punctuate im not as rich as you and afford a big computer with a normal sized keyboard….sooooooooooo go FUCK yourself

          • Anonymous

            I’ve got one already.  Download SwiftKey from the App Market.

          • Anonymous

            I’ve got one already.  Download SwiftKey from the App Market.

        • Old Fart

          Really I was just trying to communicate in a language they could understand Jack…  You know if your talkin to a wetawd like them you have to keep it simple soooooo, figured I would verbalize it in this fashion.  It plumb stupid to even think for one minute that they are not somehow perverted, twisted, insane, satanic or however and i just couldnt find the words to say so I used street slang anyhow I corrected it with  (more appropriate) word(s). 

          • Well that was the first thing I saw this morning after checking the radar and I was NOT ready to laugh that hard but it’s a good way to start your day. If that’s the worst thing you do today you’ve probably done okay..lol.

          • Old Fart

            Well I iintended for funny and wanted it to offend the JUGGHEADS not the administration. Looks lllike I got a reprimand but at llleast he didn’t cuss me like wayne county sheriff mike everett did super lee. Haha

          • You WERE funny and accurate…I just don’t want to get a “terms of service” notice….got one of those a year ago thanks to reddit; those people are vulgar unnecessarily. You were vulgar with just cause, but I still can’t allow it. Sorry, O.F! but glad Danny got a kick out of it.

          • Old Fart

            I will keep that in mind when thinking of a clever comeback next time…I was just trying not to use the F bomb and all and thot that might be less abusive to the vulgarity terms but in reality I must tell those responsible for “terms of service” that its ridiculous to act like we havent heard it before its the internet not a churchhouse!  As I said, I dont wanna cause you trouble so I will watch it from here on out…perhaps call her a little bitch or something which woulda also been funny and accurate…I must admit tho I got a good laugh out of sending it and it was accurate and fitting and I bet it gets the fired up response from all those JUGGHEADS that I just sit back and laugh at when they try to act all goody goody on here…

        • Old Fart

          Some people have a way of interrupting a good evening Jack…I was down in the burg talkin to the web master and culdnt hardly put this fone down for all the bs bein said on here by a certain Jugghead. I suppose the mission was completed anyways but the ignorance of some people and too think I was probably within a few miles of that idiots home. Where’s a good ball bat when you need one?

        • Old Fart

          Some people have a way of interrupting a good evening Jack…I was down in the burg talkin to the web master and culdnt hardly put this fone down for all the bs bein said on here by a certain Jugghead. I suppose the mission was completed anyways but the ignorance of some people and too think I was probably within a few miles of that idiots home. Where’s a good ball bat when you need one?

          • It would help, O.F., if you keep one in the back of your vehicle. Always keep a glove and baseball in the vicinity as well. That way the popo can’t try to claim you’re toting around a weapon. I keep a Louisville Slugger on hand at all times, as does Ang’s son, since he refuses to learn how to handle a weapon and get a FOID. It’s a little more up close and personal, but effective. Dinger Bats also works well, and they’re from Equality. Shop local!!

          • Old Fart

            I love to shop local and I love makin someone famous…what a better way to make someone famous than by givin em a dinger upside the head?  I also love baseball so it would kind of go together like a hand in a glove if you catch my drift heheheh!  I wish those FOID cards were banned they are as unconstitutional as anything I have ever seen.  A man should be allowed to protect his family and hunt animals for food without any problems of the law…unless he or she has proven him or her self incompetant and unable to handle a weapon.  I myself would almost assure you or anyone else that I could hit anything I aimed at be it with a gun or a bow and have never done anything to have that right taken away but sometimes the law isnt on your side fighting that case however it does put one in a hell of a predicament when needing to defend ones self

    • @Ali-Cat’s first issuance of drivel: “Just generally hated for no apparent reason.” Really? It wouldn’t have anything to do with looking like a tard, listening to highly offensive music, getting together in an impoverished county that can’t afford the toxic residue left over after you’ve gone and acting like maniacs having public sex shows, openly selling dope, and setting fire to the place when you’re done as a ‘tradition’, now would it.

      You people are not only repulsive, you are hopelessly retarded. There are no pills for that. Unfortunately the only cure is either a bolus of common sense, or measured amounts of lead. Since one will likely never happen and the other is illegal, we’re stuck with putting up with your skank asses here. That’s why I put UP these posts dissing Juggaduds….so you people could see that there’s a very popular media outlet that calls you what you are and doesn’t suck up to you because of Tim York’s money. I’d tell every last one of you to go to hell, but you’re already there. You just don’t know it yet.

  40. Old Fart

    Why cant we just bring back the Rod and when our kids act like this, Whip their little ass and make em remember who’s in charge.  Thats what these people need is parents who would discipline them not condone this crap.  I blame the parents of younger children that get involved with this to some degree.  Yes I know once they are 18 you cant control them but this one girl claimin to be 13…give me a break!  Where are her parents?  They need a spankin to in my opinion.  How heartbreaking to think I am working so hard to raise good kids just to think they are gonna be around infected scum like this!

  41. Old Fart

    You know what the funnest part is about takin a jugghead out for a date?

    You don’t have to go far to drop em off…right up there with a homeless woman  HAHAHA!

    Was so nice having a family day today and enjoying the outdoors living a true American Life…one not filled with drugs, violence or STDs.  Sure glad my home has four walls and a roof to bad a most juggheads cant say this for their home. 

    • chris stoffers

      bigot, I bet your dad didn’t like African Americans huh?

    • Old Fart

      Never had a problem with african aamericans just have a huge problem with dumb fucks such as yourself! Would you care to come to my place for a chat I love baseball wanna play a quik game and tell me im a bigot to my face you dumb fuck that has no idea how to function in society

      • Anonymous

        Old Fart, be calm now..lol..I don’t think you can invite someone over to your place with the intention of opening up a can of Whoop Ass on em when they get there…But, hey, if they take you up on your invite and get their asses whooped, then they can’t say they didn’t know WHY they were there in the first place and deserve the ass kicking!! LOL

        • Old Fart

          Well I am prettty sure you can invite someone over for any reason but all I did was tried to get a friendly game of baseball goin…he shut up pretty fast to just like he was bitch slapped lol

          • Anonymous

            LOL..He did, didn’t he? I have to say,twuld be a nice evening for a game of baseball though. I was just trying to stir the cauldron! I’ve been bored for the last couple of hours. ; )

          • Old Fart

            I know you were and its cool I was just havin some fun cuz I doubt he will show for the game guess I will win by forfeit of the opposing team. I bet I could get jack and dennis to join in this ballgame cuz if the juggs showed it would be more than one so I might as well assemble a team as well

          • Anonymous

            Absotively, Posilutely!! I am sure they would. Gather up a team..I would even try to make it…I would be right there as a cheerleader for you guys or a referee..I’d call alot of foul balls on them or make em sit in the dugout….haha

          • Old Fart

            Well looks like we are gonna win by forfeit maybe they will show up for tommorows game but u have to admit it wuld. Be a fun game

          • Anonymous

            You win by forfeiture from them for sure..but, they seem to be nocturnal, only coming out as creatures of the night. They still have a few hours to rise. Oh my word, I’m a night owl!!!! Always have been but…..NOT a creature of the night.lol..just get my days & nights mixed up like a baby tis all. The TV shows I like to watch on the History&Discovery channels are on late pm thru early am..Oh well…

          • Old Fart

            Ya they are differnet from us but if it makes u. All feel better I have outdoor lighting and can light it up like a ball diamond

  42. Anonymous

    Listen ninjas, you won’t believe who they have lined up to defile poor Cave-in-Rock, Illinois on August 11-14 … http://www.popeater.com/2011/06/07/gathering-of-the-juggalos-2011-infomercial/ 
    Lord help us all.

  43. I work in an area that seems to be a popular Juggalo hang out and I have noticed that a typical Juggalo is undereducated, low income or homeless, and comes from a home with little or no support system. These things can make any individual angry and looking for a way to express this deep seeded anger. ICP seems to be outwardly aggressive, that is their rap style and lyrics convey aggression and these Juggalos can relate to that. To them it is the only way they know how to deal with pent up negative emotions like anger and sadness. They also feel abandoned and tread on by society because of their situation which makes the Juggalo lifestyle even more appealing. The lifestyle shouldn’t be denounced because it pushes them further away. Instead society as a whole should start attacking the causes which is fixing the educational system and reducing drop out rates, providing low income programs that aid in providing shelter, food, clothing and employment assistance for those who need it and recognizing poor parental support structures early while they are young and offering effective counseling to provide them with better conflict resolution skills.

    • Old Fart

      How about gettin off the pipe they smoke and getting the STDs cleaned up, then get a wardrobe selection that is somewhat presentable, then get a job even minimum wage, perhaps after that if they arent infertile or have an STD that prevents them from engaging in finding someone to start a family with isnt out of the question either.  Living in a street gutter isnt a healthy lifestyle nor is it recommended for obvious reasons.  I find it hard to feel sorry for someone who has chosen not to help themselves.  Call me insensitve or uncaring if you wish but trust me no one would offer more help than myself if I could be shown where these folks have tried to do anything more than be troublemakers.  Now sure I figure they have went to walmart dressed like a slob and filled out an application maybe a few went to mcdonalds, but come on tell me any business owner is gonna hire a slob to work for their company?  I wouldn’t hire one if they were dressed like the ones pictured above, now I am not saying I wouldn’t hire one of them I am saying I wouldn’t hire one of them dressed like a slob and there is a difference.  As I said earlier anyone can get offended if they wish but I would recommend before getting offended that you should all take a look in the mirror and see yourselves for what you really are.   If you dont like the reflection you see try to change don’t just whine around on here and make a fool of yourselves.  Johnathan you may live in this area but apparently you have no clue as to what is going on around you as many of these deadbeats live off of their family who has some money or they use welfare and their lifestyle to make some roses and tulips to get the computers they use on here.  If they worked half as hard at a real job as they work to be a jugg they would be rich.  I hope that isnt above your comprehension level but if it is just tell me I can explain further or send you a picture. 

    • Yes, by all means let’s make it society’s fault. It wouldn’t matter how good things were, there’s always going to be a disaffected segment of the population that ass-clowns with a “message” can take advantage of.

    • Anonymous

      Johnathan, I think the answer to many of those problems you described
       ”start attacking the causes which is fixing the educational system and reducing drop out rates, providing low income programs that aid in providing shelter, food, clothing and employment assistance for those who need it and recognizing poor parental support structures early while they are young and offering effective counseling to provide them with better conflict resolution skills”
      can be remedied by an enlistment in either the U.S. Army or the United States Marine Corps.  The drill sergeants have a way of bringing folks into the real world.

  44. Anonymous

    As a juggalo, I find your statements ignorant and disgusting. You complain that we cause you to lose mone in taxes and from your own wallets. However, we all pay taxes. None of us are above the law.

    • Anonymous

      Stylz, the taxes that you pay on rolling papers, cheap wine, and KY jelly doesn’t make up for what you cost us in lost inventory from theft, the damage and clean up costs from your people taking sponge baths in the Walmart bathrooms. We also must foot the bill for your hospital bills when you get hurt or overdose, we must pay the deductible when you hit & run our vehicles and property. Our taxes also must cover the fire, police and ambulance services needed to cover your get-togethers.

    • Old Fart

      When you are willing to show all of us on here that you have paid more in “income tax” than you have taken from the states “welfare department” come talk to us about being offended and cry to us like a little bitch.  Otherwise I don’t think anyone really cares what you find  ignorant, disgusting or offensive.  You probably didn’t turn in any of the roses and tulips you earned this year and if you did you just turned in enough to get a refund from the government so do us a favor and take your bow of shame and go buy a box of kleenex becuz frankly I think my give a dam is busted.  Don’t forget that tears will ruin that face paint your wearin so hope you bought extra hate to see a smudged clown in the circus.

      • chris stoffers

        you sir are a bigot, the precursor to such accomplishments as Nazism

        • Old Fart

          Im a bigot and a precursor to nazism? You sir are a retarded fool to blind to see your own shadow. Now that we have that out of the way is there anything wise you wish to say?

          • Anonymous

            Old Fart, I must say, these Juggs are not only silly, smell bad and dress funny, they are darn good entertainment too! Should we get in contact with the Dept of Public Aid and see if they will slip a little something extra into the Jugg Family pay envelope this month for keeping us laughing so much?

          • Old Fart

            I was thinkin maybe a $500 reward from crime stoppers per jugghead bounty for us to split would be more appealing since they are into all this other crap I bet the are wanted fugitives also….how’s that for insensitive….oh wait im a bigot haha so that means im insensitive and don’t give a dam. Heil Hitler since im a precursor to nazism…someone ought to beat that idiot sensless if he had any sense to be beat out of him to begin with…some folks just know how to prove there is no hope for stupidity but yes dennis they are good entertainment and playin baseball with one or more of them would be fun

          • Anonymous

            Tahahaha, aren’t they though? But, you know if they get more cash, then they will take it off their link card.

          • Old Fart

            They have to work to get link card cash and that’s where the questions come into play because with all their mental handicaps and extraordinary choice of attire I doubt any cash will be getting to them just the free food that they consume an over abundance of….while I am on a roll here I found out what ICP really stands for today….Ignorance Cripples Prosperity! What’s the Juggheads without even a single brain cell gonna say to that? Remember Chris you said I am a bigot so that being said I really could care less whatever you send as I will only use it for entertainment purposes only!

    • Old Fart

      Wheres the ball game at today I wanna try out my new bat and glove….or is their to many pitchers and catchers in this game already?

    • Old Fart

      Im so glad you were able to turn on the computer and actually find me at all…your a genius! Maybe if you keep this up you will stumbleacross someone who gives a dam

  45. Anonymous

    Old Fart, I don’t worry about outdoor lighting.  Hubby has a itty bitty pair of lights that straps around my head but…..let me tell ya, they are bright enough to blind a bat and no bigger than a #2 pencil. They won’t know if they are seeing dots from the lights or tripping whatever drugs they may use!!!! LOLOLOL

    • Old Fart

      well lets see the lights lol that could be interesting maybe you would get the deer in the headlights look from them just before the opening pitch

      • Anonymous

        You can count on it with these lights!!! LOL…Are you ready for some…..baseball??? Let’s get this game going…I’ll be sayin, swing batta, swing batta, swing batta, swing, turn the light on and you can throw a low, high, outside or inside pitch. Or I can use the laser light…lol. Then they won’t know if they’re following the ball or the light. I’ll follow the ball with the laser light about half way then I’ll make the laser light go straight up or down and watch em swing way before the ball gets there in the air..haha

        • Old Fart

          SWING BATTER BATTER BATTER SWING let’s playball with this possessed idiots I bet they have a few good pitchers and maybe a few catchers to if you kno wut I mean

          • Anonymous

            I know exactly wat ya mean! Glad it isn’t football or they may be on the receiving end with each other…eeeewwww! Thatsa nasty thought!! BLBLBLBLBLBLBL(shaking my head here)…I can not believe I just typed that but it just popped in my mind.

          • Old Fart

            Yuck simply disgusting. But funny

      • Anonymous

        You can count on it with these lights!!! LOL…Are you ready for some…..baseball??? Let’s get this game going…I’ll be sayin, swing batta, swing batta, swing batta, swing, turn the light on and you can throw a low, high, outside or inside pitch. Or I can use the laser light…lol. Then they won’t know if they’re following the ball or the light. I’ll follow the ball with the laser light about half way then I’ll make the laser light go straight up or down and watch em swing way before the ball gets there in the air..haha

    • Old Fart

      YOOHOO DID YOU FORGET YOUR CROCK POT TODAY? Its boiling over again lol

      • Anonymous

        Hahahaha, Actually, I have one of my big pots on a slow simmer. I made a pot of chili last night and it’s always better after the flavor soaks in for a day or two. I know, I know, chili at this time of the year is not NORMAL but I can only go so long without it. I sure hope THAT doesn’t qualify me as abnormal!!! If it does, I’ll take that kind of abnormality anytime….lol

        • Old Fart

          Ya its abnormal but I think we can live with that….when will the chili be ready it does sound good…better than elwoods remarks at least

          • Anonymous

            HA! Thank you..Me and my abnormalities are easily overlooked cuz I’m short. I’ll let it simmer for a couple of more hours, turn it off for awhile, then simmer another hour or so, so….just about suppertime, around five or six.

            You know, I couldn’t tell by Elwood’s comment if it was a jab or possibly he was trying to call a truce? Idk..it’s hard to say. You had covered alot with your comment that he replied to.

          • Old Fart

            He Was jabbin and tryin to make it look nice…if he was apologetic he could have said it clearly im no dumby. It was apparent to me he had sarcasm in his statement. Regardless he is the one who poked at me and dennis and especially dennis. Im not to concerned about anything he says or she whichever the case may be.
            well I might have to come over if the chili is gonna be done at 5 or6. Lol

          • Anonymous

            It did have a ring of nasty-nice to it. I had just turned the computer on and it was hard for me to try to detect if it was some form of an apology or not. Some people just can not apologize without adding insult to injury. I totally agree that he or she started the jabs with you and Dennis, ESPECIALLY DENNIS! Those really have me scratching my head?? I’ve met Dennis and he is a very unique and kind Human Being. Some people don’t think he has a sense of humor, but let me tell ya, he does!! He is a hoot!!

            You know, if you have chili, you may live up to part of your screen name…poot-poot..LOL. I’m sorry, I couldn’t resist that one..

          • Old Fart

            Dennis is a great guy and why elwood has. A problem with that is beyone me but whoopie its beyond my desires to even care lol. Anyhow I do live up to my screen name when eating chili Gotta love them beans

          • Anonymous

            O.F., I was just kiddin ya about your screen name like I did here awhile back when I told you I couldn’t help but to giggle when I seen it..lol. You had brought a smile to my face with it, which I hadn’t had for awhile back then. I think I said something to effect of, rub-a-dub-dub, tiny bubbles in the tub…Deff, gotta love those beans though!!!

          • Old Fart

            its all good i knew when i put that name on here there would be some fun poked at it but its fitting unless of course someone wants me to change it to ole chigger LOL

          • Anonymous

            I really like “Old Fart”! You really did bring me a giggle with it when I seen it. We have to find humor in our daily lives somewhere. So, you’re doing GREAT job as far as I’m concerned!! Don’t  change it, PLEASE??

  46. Anonymous

    Greetings, ‘NIMBY’s.

    I’m not a Jugglette, but please allow me to comment on how repulsive I find many of your views.

    The undercurrent of prejudice here, and the ignorance of socioeconomic factors in the formation of different sectors of our society is just appalling. These opinions (from self-reportedly ‘educated’ people) are not thoughtful, or constructive. They merely keep the disadvantaged oppressed.

    Many of you appear to judge these people from positions of privilege. If you had any social conscience, you would be ashamed of yourselves.

    • Typical liberal….. Big words…no content.

      • Old Fart

        A typical dumb broad with liberal remarks and no idea what discipline is, nor any idea or conception of How society functions nor any idea of how these idiots called juggalos think. They are lazy and hate to say it pretty much worthless! Ya if there was a way to help them I sure would but the fact is you cannot help someone Who will not first help themselves! Since all they wanna do is break laws and live like heathens I hope the police soon help them find their way to the jailhouse then they can gather in prisons across the country and see if all the other inmates wanna live like slobs.

        • Anonymous

          Old Fart & Co., let me assure you of the following:

          1) Your ‘dumb broad’ remark is hereby matched by my ‘arrogant bigot’ retort.

          2) You present as fact alot of assumptions based on your own prejudice – apparently you know how all juggalos think, and how they were all raised as well.

          3) I can give you plenty of evidence based on research that supports the theory that socioeconomic factors such as belonging to a minority race or poverty influence a persons likelihood of becoming a criminal, unemployed or sexual promiscuous. These factors are NOT their choice. For some of these young people, the Juggalos are the closest thing to a real ‘family’ they’ve ever had. Have you had such a blessed, sheltered life that you can not grasp that concept?

          4) I must outrageously assume that you, in fact, LOVE to say that Juggalos are worthless.

          • Old Fart

            I am not going to go in and break down all of that dumb remark you just gave because you have infact just sold out everyone who wishes to whine, cry, or otherwise bitch about their lives and blame everyone else but themselves! There is no excuse for this behaviour other than a mental disorder perhaps outside of that its simply a relunctance to accept responsiblity of their actions and apparently you think that’s cool or something to misbehave and then go whine like a baby when no one likes how you dress or act. I hope you come here and give them all the support they need as you are the biggest bigot of all if you don’t after saying you know so much about them and that I am so stupid and unknown to anything about them. One final thought there genius, if you think I haven’t had problems your simply a pathetic fool I choose to move on and be productive unlike your friends

          • Old Fart

            Yin reference to #4 you need not assume what I may or may not do as I do not say they are worthless….you being as intelligent as you claim should have read what I said: If someone does not want help you would be waste of your time and theirs. That being said let me say that does not render them worthless but it does say I will not waste my time helping someone not wanting help….I am not a bank nor a savings and loan, therefore I am not giving any handouts and especially not to someone who would blow it on dope, face paint or tattered clothing!

          • Your propensity for stating the obvious as if you had discovered some elusive universal truth all by yourself is just adorable. OF COURSE socioeconomic factors such as belonging to a minority race or being born into impoverished conditions influence a persons likelihood of yadayada, and OF COURSE we don’t get to choose the particular circumstances we’re born into.

            Could we please get to the part where you explain how any of this makes it okay for a few thousand fucktards to come to Hardin County every year endangering residents lives on the roads, shoplifting from struggling businesses, creating serious health hazards in public restrooms, and draining the public resources of one of the poorer counties in this state ?

            Being born into a given set of conditions doesn’t mean you are predestined to never step off the path of least resistance, that’s a free will CHOICE even if there’s research to support the likelihood (statistical probability) of what choice you’ll make. Speaking of statistics, did you know that 78% of statisticians absolutely HATE their freakin’ job ?

          • Anonymous

            Very well put Danny! It IS about free will CHOICES people make in their lives once they grow up. I don’t think I know of too many people that can say their childhood or upbringing was always a bed of roses. The thing about it is, is NOT to give into it! We have to take the high road and rise above it if we don’t like certain things that may have been thrown our way, no matter the circumstances, ALL the way through life. Period!! We have to fight against things, such as this very thread, in order to maintain some kind of normalcy. They can say all they want that it’s normal for them, but it just doesn’t define the word “normal” to me.

          • Old Fart

            Well put Danny!  I couldnt come up with all those eloquent words you used but it is very well stated.  I’m just gonna guess at what those serious health hazards are in the public restrooms…Good Grief why would anyone want to live like that?  We have one that visited the Marathon Gas Station a few days ago and decided he was gonna explode his anus all over the restroom…them poor attendants just worked their tails off cleaning it up but for the love of Pete why would anyone do such a thing?  Its wetawded to go somewhere and intentionally vandalize especially with this type of waste.  Some might say maybe it was an accident well first of all you should have been there secondly he’s done this at other places.  If this fellar comes to the Juggalo Days in Hardin Co. you better watch out cuz there aint no safe place to hide. 

          • Anonymous

            Don’t feel bad, I couldn’t either. I think you get your point across just fine, btw!! After, reading your comment, I now know why I do NOT use public restrooms very often at all..you just reassured me of the very reason why. Thank you!

          • Old Fart

            Old Fart and Co?  was she/he trying to call me out above all of you?  Sounds like she/he was tryin to make it personal.  Dam Liberals anyhow!

    • So…what you’re saying is that Juggs are disadvantaged.

      We’ve been saying that all along. They’re like drug addicts who claim they have a “disease,’ yet drug addiction is the only ‘disease’ that a person can subsequently GIVE themselves as well as CURE themselves of, simply by either doing dope or not doing dope.

      Juggs are ‘disadvantaged’ because of a handicap they GIVE themselves (painting their faces, wearing stupid clothing, listening to violent music and behaving like a Marching Moron) that they could subsequently STOP themselves from having by washing off the face paint, wearing normal clothing, listening to music that doesn’t promote killing hoes and fucking their eye sockets after chopping off their heads, and behaving in a socially-acceptable manner.

      Thank you for making our point, AngelaCN.

      • Anonymous

        You’ve either missed my point entirely, or are being deliberately obtuse. Now you’re purporting that drug addicts CHOOSE to be addicted? I really think you need to educate yourself on the physiological nature of addiction, lovey. Yawn.

        I am so incredibly joyful to not have the confines of a mind such as yours. In fact, I’ll not waste another minute on you! LOL

        • Old Fart

          You know I couldn’t be happier knowing your not going to try to help theses creatures of habit and furthermore prove my point that you only came here to run me and others down not to even come remotely close to helpiing them….you do indeed talk and act like one of them juggs and quite frankly I wouldn’t be surprised to find out you are one and just coming off of a high long enough to smartass everyone…stick to your word and don’t waste anymore of our time being sensless.

        • You’ve missed something yourself. Just because you think you have a point doesn’t mean that anyone else is going to consider it valid, or that they are being obtuse. The FIRST TIME someone uses a drug they know to be addictive, they are making a free will choice to risk becoming addicted. There’s plenty of addicts that hate their addiction and will concede this point themselves, telling you  ”I made the wrong CHOICE.” 

        • AngelaCN, I have a stepdaughter who is hopelessly addicted. Having lived through this shit, and having listened to my wife tell me about her own mother who was addicted from 1977 until the day Ang had to have them pull the plug on her own mother in the hospital, June 9, 2008, I’m here to tell you: doping and drinking is A CHOICE, YOU’RE DAMN STRAIGHT. The only people who believe it’s something other than a CHOICE is a limpdick, weak-souled, mealy-mouthed MORON who doesn’t have the intestinal fortitude to put down the glass or the pipe or the needle. I’ve known PLENTY of people, including my own brother AND Ang’s sister, who have just WALKED AWAY FROM IT.

          And the particular key to this is to get away from all the mealy-mouth, limpdick weak-souled WHINERS like YOU who enable them by patting them on the head and saying “It’s okay, little addict, it’s not YOUR fault, it’s everyone around you!!”

          Go away and get the fuck off my website you inchoate bitch. I don’t need people with souls as weak as yours polluting my readership.

          • Anonymous

            Jack, the first paragraph made me cry. I won’t lie to ya, it did! Then, I read the end of it, and offer my congrats to your brother and Ang’s sister. We won’t give up on Ang’s daughter and I hope she knows how hard we are all praying for her as well as the rest of you!

            Second paragraph, the addict must have ownership of their addiction and not blame it on everyone or everything else that has ever happened in their lives. No one should condone their bad behavior either!

            Third paragraph, I don’t think she would be able to change most of your readerships minds. Period! Unless, of course, it’s a younger person looking for the okay to act out in any way. I know, most of us will not falter to that way of thinking!

          • Yeah that’s what burns me about Jade….she had EVERY opportunity to make the most of herself. She DIDN’T come from any kind of underprivileged or neglectful upbringing; she DIDN’T have ANY of the “typical” excuses these losers use for their ‘addictions’ (weakness). She had support for every issue in her life, every step of the way, she was very close to her mom and her brother & sister, everything was VERY stable in our home. There are NO excuses—she got in with the wrong crowd, a bunch of weak-willed, whiny simpering entitlement bitches and bastards who all whined and griped that their lives were soooooooo bad (yeah right….because mom or dad wouldn’t buy them the tricked-out truck they wanted; mom and/or dad wanted them to get a job; mom or dad wanted them to go to college and wouldn’t give them any of the thousands of dollars they’d put away for just that purpose; mom or dad wouldn’t let them have sex right there in their homes any time they wanted to; you know, stuff like that, that they were ENTITLED to…?) and so THAT’S why they got into drugs.

            Until the attitude toward illegal and harmful substances changes, we are going to lose more and more of our children and grandchildren to dope. The most awful thing to have happened to addicts was the trend about 35 years ago that termed alcoholism and drug addiction as a “disease.” There is no addiction that is itself a “disease,” nor is there any kind of emotional or mental condition that is a “disease” that leads to addiction. There are only weak-willed, character-flawed people who have little to no self-control and virtually zero conscience—about themselves and what they do to their own bodies and minds when they ingest illegal substances, and about others who have to suffer through their selfish, shallow, spineless behavior in doing the dope.

            And btw….pot is DOPE. I’ve heard, for the past week and a half, all I care to hear about how pot isn’t dope; “meth is dope, not pot!” and I swear if I hear one more little stoner say to me that pot isn’t dope, Ang had better have a hundred dollar bill in her pocket, because I’m likely to have a high-speed come-apart all over their stoned out skank ass.

          • Yeah that’s what burns me about Jade….she had EVERY opportunity to make the most of herself. She DIDN’T come from any kind of underprivileged or neglectful upbringing; she DIDN’T have ANY of the “typical” excuses these losers use for their ‘addictions’ (weakness). She had support for every issue in her life, every step of the way, she was very close to her mom and her brother & sister, everything was VERY stable in our home. There are NO excuses—she got in with the wrong crowd, a bunch of weak-willed, whiny simpering entitlement bitches and bastards who all whined and griped that their lives were soooooooo bad (yeah right….because mom or dad wouldn’t buy them the tricked-out truck they wanted; mom and/or dad wanted them to get a job; mom or dad wanted them to go to college and wouldn’t give them any of the thousands of dollars they’d put away for just that purpose; mom or dad wouldn’t let them have sex right there in their homes any time they wanted to; you know, stuff like that, that they were ENTITLED to…?) and so THAT’S why they got into drugs.

            Until the attitude toward illegal and harmful substances changes, we are going to lose more and more of our children and grandchildren to dope. The most awful thing to have happened to addicts was the trend about 35 years ago that termed alcoholism and drug addiction as a “disease.” There is no addiction that is itself a “disease,” nor is there any kind of emotional or mental condition that is a “disease” that leads to addiction. There are only weak-willed, character-flawed people who have little to no self-control and virtually zero conscience—about themselves and what they do to their own bodies and minds when they ingest illegal substances, and about others who have to suffer through their selfish, shallow, spineless behavior in doing the dope.

            And btw….pot is DOPE. I’ve heard, for the past week and a half, all I care to hear about how pot isn’t dope; “meth is dope, not pot!” and I swear if I hear one more little stoner say to me that pot isn’t dope, Ang had better have a hundred dollar bill in her pocket, because I’m likely to have a high-speed come-apart all over their stoned out skank ass.

          • Anonymous

            I honestly relate to everything you said from the beginning to the end! Someone would be there to get you out.
            And, about the no conscious? I have often wondered why people who abuse drugs can sleep so good while the one’s who care about and love them are lucky to get 2-3 hours of good rest at any given time? I’m not sure if that happens to you and Ang, but it most certainly does me. Unfortunately, we, as loved ones suffer while it’s going on in so many ways, but the addict may not suffer from the harmful affects until later on in life, when they can’t undo the damage.

          • Anonymous

            I honestly relate to everything you said from the beginning to the end! Someone would be there to get you out.
            And, about the no conscious? I have often wondered why people who abuse drugs can sleep so good while the one’s who care about and love them are lucky to get 2-3 hours of good rest at any given time? I’m not sure if that happens to you and Ang, but it most certainly does me. Unfortunately, we, as loved ones suffer while it’s going on in so many ways, but the addict may not suffer from the harmful affects until later on in life, when they can’t undo the damage.

          • Anonymous

            I honestly relate to everything you said from the beginning to the end! Someone would be there to get you out.
            And, about the no conscious? I have often wondered why people who abuse drugs can sleep so good while the one’s who care about and love them are lucky to get 2-3 hours of good rest at any given time? I’m not sure if that happens to you and Ang, but it most certainly does me. Unfortunately, we, as loved ones suffer while it’s going on in so many ways, but the addict may not suffer from the harmful affects until later on in life, when they can’t undo the damage.

          • Anonymous

            I honestly relate to everything you said from the beginning to the end! Someone would be there to get you out.
            And, about the no conscious? I have often wondered why people who abuse drugs can sleep so good while the one’s who care about and love them are lucky to get 2-3 hours of good rest at any given time? I’m not sure if that happens to you and Ang, but it most certainly does me. Unfortunately, we, as loved ones suffer while it’s going on in so many ways, but the addict may not suffer from the harmful affects until later on in life, when they can’t undo the damage.

          • Old Fart

            Thank you Jack and they better make that $200 bucks cuz I would be in there with ya!  Its pathetic to call it any different than it is.  If it werent dope we would all be smoking it and drinkin a cold brewskie everyday.  If it aint dope why wouldnt we be allowed to use it during the day?  Fact its dope it hinders/alters the mind and thus is a form of dope.  So are alot of prescription medications also, if and only if you are using them to gain a high and not for their intended purposes.  I have some family that has done this crap to and its a sad thing to witness…I doubt we would make good cellys but none the less if we were together and we heard someone say it I believe I would be in jail regardless of any outcomes or jailtime incurred as a result thereof!  Jack I admire what you have tried to do with your family and I hope if I am ever faced with a similar circumstance I can handle it as well as you and Ang have…heres to hopin I dont have to find out with my own kids tho

      • Old Fart

        No jack I think she just stayed up til the weeee hours of the morning and decided to be a SA And thatsnot for states attorney either heheh! We all know drug addiction is a disease of sorts and that it can be cured or fed thru ones decision(s)! I do wish they would clean up and would be happy to help anyone who wishes to clean up but obviously they have to reach a point of wanting the help before anyone else can offer it.oherwise its pretty much wasting everyones time! I didn’t wanna get completely off course there and hurt anyone who is trying to straightten up their life just sayin those bozos ain’t tryin so Neither is me. That ought to aggrevate the spelling police LOL

      • Old Fart

        No jack I think she just stayed up til the weeee hours of the morning and decided to be a SA And thatsnot for states attorney either heheh! We all know drug addiction is a disease of sorts and that it can be cured or fed thru ones decision(s)! I do wish they would clean up and would be happy to help anyone who wishes to clean up but obviously they have to reach a point of wanting the help before anyone else can offer it.oherwise its pretty much wasting everyones time! I didn’t wanna get completely off course there and hurt anyone who is trying to straightten up their life just sayin those bozos ain’t tryin so Neither is me. That ought to aggrevate the spelling police LOL

  47. Anonymous

    Greetings ‘NIMBY’s.

    I’m not a Jugglette, but please allow me to comment on how repulsive I find many of your views.

    The undercurrent of prejudice here, and the ignorance of socioeconomic factors in the formation of different sectors of our society is just appalling. These opinions (from self-reportedly ‘educated’ people) are not thoughtful, or constructive. They merely keep the disadvantaged oppressed.

    Many of you appear to judge these people from positions of privilege. If you had anything resembling a social conscience, you would be ashamed of yourselves.

    • Old Fart

      HEY AngelaCN  the biggest NIMBY around,

      If you are so good with handling these types of individuals why don’t you come and see what you can do rather than tell us we are all wrong and should be ashamed of ourselves.  These Juggalos are not oppressed by our choice they are oppressed by their own choices.  They should have received a few good whippins when they was younger and apparently their parents were as blind to this issue as you are.  They hang around doing drugs, having sex with multiple/random partners and have no desire to work as the rest of society does.  This isnt our choice, it isnt my choice, nor is it the choice of anyone else commenting!  They made their nest now they must lie in it!  If you don’t like our views and feel we are wrong, PROVE IT!   I frankly don’t think you have a leg to stand on and will never show up to help in the problems the area is facing.  You are just another one of their buddies who has listened to the sob stories they love to tell and are actually gullable enough to believe it.  They dont need sympathy they need discipline, only problem is the discipline wont come until they actually break a big enough law that sends them to DOC.  This will eventually happen but how many STD’s and deaths will occur before it does happen?  The police in the area seem to turn a deaf ear to this type of trouble for whatever the reason.  However the problem is still there and the cost to the states welfare system is enormous.  These Juggalos have the ability to work the same as I do they just chose not to work and be a brainless rebel.  Once again, if you feel I am wrong, PROVE IT! 

    • Old Fart

      HEY AngelaCN  the biggest NIMBY around,

      If you are so good with handling these types of individuals why don’t you come and see what you can do rather than tell us we are all wrong and should be ashamed of ourselves.  These Juggalos are not oppressed by our choice they are oppressed by their own choices.  They should have received a few good whippins when they was younger and apparently their parents were as blind to this issue as you are.  They hang around doing drugs, having sex with multiple/random partners and have no desire to work as the rest of society does.  This isnt our choice, it isnt my choice, nor is it the choice of anyone else commenting!  They made their nest now they must lie in it!  If you don’t like our views and feel we are wrong, PROVE IT!   I frankly don’t think you have a leg to stand on and will never show up to help in the problems the area is facing.  You are just another one of their buddies who has listened to the sob stories they love to tell and are actually gullable enough to believe it.  They dont need sympathy they need discipline, only problem is the discipline wont come until they actually break a big enough law that sends them to DOC.  This will eventually happen but how many STD’s and deaths will occur before it does happen?  The police in the area seem to turn a deaf ear to this type of trouble for whatever the reason.  However the problem is still there and the cost to the states welfare system is enormous.  These Juggalos have the ability to work the same as I do they just chose not to work and be a brainless rebel.  Once again, if you feel I am wrong, PROVE IT! 

    • Wow. So now it’s not just society’s fault, but specifically Southern Illinois’ society’s fault.

      How can you live with yourself knowing that these poor downtrodden ‘los are being oppressed here in SoIl ? For God’s sakes give them a place to hold the Gathering where they can be free of all the prejudice and oppression here.

      Yes, do the thoughtful, constructive, socially conscientious thing and give them a place to hold the Gathering. One of the first things you’ll notice is that they are not too disadvantaged to find a way to get to your place from all over the country, although a certain percentage of them may need to borrow some money from you or your neighbors to get back home. That won’t matter though, because it will feel so darn good to know you’ve contributed to curing a great injustice being done to them here.

      They will no doubt thrive in the environment provided by you, basking in the socioeconomic enlightenment of your patronage. If you can do that, we all promise to work really really hard on becoming better people.

      Thanks a ton for this opportunity and be sure to come back and let us know how things are working out on your end. 

    • Anonymous

      I have to clarify something: when I say that you ought to be ashamed of yourselves, I was mainly referring to the many unnecessarily rude replies you’ve made in reply to previous commenters.

      I agree with you that antisocial behavior which harms others should not be condoned, and that your county shouldn’t have to deal with the fallout.

      What really bothers me though, is the rude way you dismiss people who either disagree with your very polarized views on principle, or are Juggalos attempting to defend themselves.

      I just find it distasteful… I think being ‘educated’ you could choose to conduct yourselves better through this medium.

      Try a little acceptance of those who are different from yourselves. They can’t ALL be criminals/drug addicts/unemployed/sexual deviants. Some are surely harmless people who have jobs, and happen to dress funny, wear weird clothing and paint their faces while listening to horrid music – for reasons we cannot fathom. And so what? Who are we to dictate what other people should and should not enjoy? These people would live alternative lifestyles whether the ICP existed or not.

      Good luck… I truly hope that your community finds a constructive resolution somehow. How about a community petition to ban the sale of alcohol at the event? It has been successfully achieved before.

  48. I’m a juggalette. I came across this looking up pictures on google, but, if I may, I’d like to clarify a few things.
    1. The “repulsive” lyrics are why we take pride in our music. It’s an acquired taste that not many understand or appreciate. To us, it isn’t just violence and mayhem, it allows people who have difficulty expressing emotions (like us) to vent through music. Whether that be from actually writing it or just listening.
    2. Our culture is not something that is constantly in your face, so to speak. Yes, some ‘los and ‘lettes take it too far, but every group of people has extremists, not just us. That is another reason we become so dedicated, because it isn’t something you can find on MTV or similar places. You have to go out and find our music. We aren’t even on the radio, except one station that must be found through satellite since it’s not public. We don’t go out and force people to accept us or even acknowledge us.
    3. A common stereotype of ‘los and ‘lettes is that we only hurt society, contribute nothing and are constantly vulgar. In fact, there will always be people like that in every society, culture or group. We are not the only culture to have members that fit this criteria. Actually, all of the ‘los and ‘lettes I know have jobs, go to church, participate in community service and are very respectful and kind.
    4. A song of ICP’s entitled “thy unveiling” is a common reason for the confusion over religion and juggalos. I believe the song “miracles” also plays a part. Violent J and Shaggy 2 Dope are both christian and do speak openly about their wish for juggalos to find God. This isn’t saying we are an organized religion or that they believe they are doing God’s will. Is it fair to assume that whenever a pop artist or metal band references God that they believe their music is God’s work?
    5. Another common misconception is that juggalos are followers of ICP, as the author of this clearly believes. However, ICP is meerly the most popular band within the horrorcore genre. There are literally hundreds of bands and multiple record labels. In fact, many ‘los and ‘lettes prefer music from Boondox, Tech N9ne or Zug Izland, just to name a few.
    6. Many horrorcore artists rap about violence with absolutely no restraint. They speak about hurting the elderly, women, rape, etc. I personally tend to listen to those that don’t, which the ratio for that is roughly 50:50. ICP, contrary to this author’s statement, doesn’t go into this extreme. If you look into most of their music, for example “halls of illusion”, “to catch a predator”, “bang pow boom”, “tilt a whirl”, the violence they sing about is directed to rapists, bigots, pedophiles, people who beat women or children, etc.
    7. There is a message behind the music, however most don’t have the capacity to get past the vulgarity to hear it. And no, this message isn’t to blindly follow, do God’s bidding or become violent. It is to remain independent, tolerant and moral. (not moral in the sense of religion, but as the common conception of right and wrong)
    8. Regarding the gathering, it is the same thing as x-fest or any other concert with similar end results. The gathering is simply view more dramatically due to the stigma behind ‘los and ‘lettes.
    9. Society frowns upon us for our music lyrics, painted faces and what not, mostly because of they few who take things too far and use the music as an excuse for violence. In the words of Violent J himself, it’s entertainment. It is not supposed to tell you what to do in real life, it may express the artists views on life, but music is a source of entertainment. Too many people from too many different cultures blame music for their actions when music was never created for people to blindly do what they song says. It is something to hear or view and take pleasure in.
    10. Although our culture is in almost constant scrutiny and judgement, members of the JH not only do not receive scrutiny, but doesn’t receive any form of recognition, positive or negative. The JH, juggalo holocaust, is a group that I believe (if I’m not mistaken) originated on youtube and has since branched to multiple different names. I personally have been threatened by them on youtube telling me they would hunt me down, find me, gang rape me and slit my throat because I am a juggalette. They have a website, that constantly changes name, but never content, (can be found on google) has a banner stating, “Juggalos and juggalettes: 9 raped and 13 dead just isn’t enough.” I’m not meaning to rant about them, but it is a shame that society is so largely against us, who are non-violent, yet doesn’t even care about a group with a solely homicidal purpose.
    Thank you for your time and I hope that this has at least changed the opinion of reader. Much clown love.

    • Anonymous

      Very well said Jazmin… I enjoyed reading your eloquent commentary. Although I doubt you’ll be met with anything but condescension, condemnation and/or ridicule from these narrow minded bigots.

      • Jazmin: thank you for your input. You made some very valid points. There’s no need to diss someone who makes points without being obnoxious….unlike AngelaCN.

        @AngelaCN: I thought you were gone, bitch.

        Lemme help ya.

        • Anonymous

          Jazmin did make a very intelligent post comment. All without any name calling. Jazmin, I do appreciate your comment. It is the bad behavior from the ‘los and ‘lettes that bring attitude from us. Maybe, that’s all we get in this area, idk. I’m still sure I won’t be able to wrap my head around it, understand it or anything else. But, thank you for posting that without demeaning others opinions on it!

      • @Jazmin: Very good point. Thank you for your input,m and we’ll address it later when we get a chance.

        @AngelaCN: I thought you were gone.

        Allow me to help you out. Don’t let the door hitcha where the Lord splitcha…bitch.

      • Anonymous

        As a narrow minded bigot, I am so confused. If what all of the Jugg Family members has written in here is true, that they are all peace-loving, non-violent, Christians that are highly educated with high morals and great jobs, then who are those people that come to Southern Illinois, bath in Walmart bathrooms, steal from all the stores, urinate in people’s driveways, leave garbage all over the place and beat the daylights out of people?
        Wow, that is a really long sentence!

        • Anonymous

          Dang it Dennis! You make it soo hard sometimes…LOL! I think I’ll just say..leftovers or fecal matter that was kicked out?? Or maybe, the people who do not respect or understand what Jazmin made a comment about. I will never understand the lyrics and I don’t want to try because I know me and I will never be able to understand it as they do.

      • Old Fart

        I am proud to be a narrow minded bigot when I meet up with narrow minded idiots!  Thank You and Have a Nice Day

    • Jazmin I would say you have made one of the better if not the best fan posts to this thread. For myself, I don’t care all that much about how ‘los and ‘lettes dress or even the content of the music. I dress how I want and when it comes to music, I like what I like and won’t tolerate being told it sucks, my answer is always the same, “It sucks to YOU, and that’s fine. I like it.”

      My problem with the ‘los and ‘lettes stems from the grief they bring to Hardin every year as described elsewhere. Aside from that, they creep me out because they remind me of mimes and I never could stand mimes.

      Actually, I had been considering asking Jack if he would equip me with a press credential so I could spend a couple of days at the Gathering talking to fans and maybe get a chance to ask ICP a few questions too. I’m not going to, because I have a business in start-up and don’t really have the time. But I do think it would be a good idea to get some boots on the ground inside the Gathering, although I do question if one could get the straight story or just what they want the press to see.

      You’ve presented a couple of things I want to look over for myself and in the meantime I think I’m going to step off from this thread for a while, the Gathering isn’t far off and the whole issue is likely going to renew itself. I want to look into JH and I’m interested in seeing if there’s any straight-up info on VJ and S2D. I’ve amused myself for going on a year now sparring with fans and frankly it’s gotten stale. You kind of added some fresh material there, so good job and stay safe. 

      • Danny, I think you would be walking that fine line between brave and stupid to show up at the gathering with credentials from Disclosure. You would probably be the next one the police have to go in and rescue. LOL

        • Yes, and this is why I rarely act on impulse, not all my ideas are good ones. I can’t believe they lined up Ice Cube he went mainstream a long time ago, and MC Hammer, well..I guess we know who this years whipping boy is. Better him than me lol.

    • Old Fart

      I will say that I dont agree with most of what the juggalos do and I dont want my kids involved in it at any point of their lives.  However you do have the right to hold a meeting or do your thing so long as it does not disrupt the normal way of life for others around you. This includes the ones who go do nasty things in public places including restrooms and otherwise.  This includes doing illicit/illegal substances or even the legal substances that are used in an illegal fashion.  The use of face paint and funny clothes just makes you look less intelligent than what you would otherwise look.  I hope this isnt the regular attire you wear when you’re with your families but whatever rocks your boat.  If there wasnt such a mass quantity of juggs acting up at the same place there probably wouldnt be so much ridicule over the attire you or others choose to wear.  If you have a mission do it peaceably and there wouldn’t be as many problems.  My comments are not intended to be racist, judgemental, a precursor to nazism, a bigot or otherwise but when someone or a group of someones in this case chooses to act up and cause problems for a whole community well what can you expect.  If I were to start slapping you in the face (for example) how many times would you let me slap you before you slapped me back?    Think about this the next time you are in southern Illinois or anywhere else you all gather.  This is whats causing the problems when businesses are looted and vandalized and a whole community is turned upside down as a result of your group.  Yes there is good in every group as well as bad but there should be some sort of discipline even among the leaders of the Juggs that would not condone things like theft, vandalism, looting and making health hazards in public places.  This message is not set out to attack you personally but there is trouble in your group of friends and it needs to be straightened out.  I would say the same thing to my kids or anyone else who caused this much trouble so its not just against the juggs its against terrorism and vandalization and drug abuse.  All of it ruins lives, families and in this case communities.  Thank You for Your Time

  49. Anonymous

    As a juggalo, I find your statements ignorant and disgusting. You complain that we cause you to lose mone in taxes and from your own wallets. However, we all pay taxes. None of us are above the law…i find the following statement especially selfish and well just dumb:  Hardin County is in our judicial circuit, and what affects the circuit—having to pay for out-of-county jail stays of young ignorant people having substance abuse issues; having the court bound up with out-of-state people who will never be back in the area again after getting busted for possession, fighting, etc, creating uncollected fines and fees; sending our police and ambulances (all funded by taxpayers’ dollars) all up and down our highways—affects us. i will stop here…now anyone wh agrees with that…put yourself into that exact situation(being out of state and in an accadent) wouldnt you want to be taken care of by a timely emergancy care unit and treated??? (question from zorn: by act of god were you to survive and were told by a paramedic that the reason you were not treated was because you were out of state would you not feel as if you were betraied or belittled as a citizen of the u.s.a) in te americian constatution: all men are creaed equal juggalos and juggaletes are men and women you arenot better than anyone else we are not better than you…whoop whoop mmfwcl
     

    • There is no comparison, stylz…if one of us were in another state, in another jurisdiction, and because of our own stupidity (doing massive amounts of dope at a venue like the gathering) we have a wreck, we are thus victims of our own stupidity and if the locals didn’t want to treat us, hey….we get what we deserve. And that’s what separates us normal people from you freaks….we don’t go hundreds of miles away in order to ingest illicit substances, get no sleep, then get on the road and have wrecks. We just don’t do that. It boils down to having common sense versus having no common sense. We have common sense, and the people who attend the gathering have none. Now go home, little man. We’re tired of you.

      • Anonymous

        Well,CHIT Jack! We almost said the same thing or at least tried to convey the same message.  I was trying to be careful…I don’t wanna get kicked off or banned from here!! LOL…I wuv u guys, the readers, the commenters and the site waaaayyyyy to much to ever take a chance on getting booted!

      • Anonymous

        Well,CHIT Jack! We almost said the same thing or at least tried to convey the same message.  I was trying to be careful…I don’t wanna get kicked off or banned from here!! LOL…I wuv u guys, the readers, the commenters and the site waaaayyyyy to much to ever take a chance on getting booted!

    • Anonymous

      stylz, I would have a problem if I was refused medical treatment or not taken in a timely manner, without a doubt! I guess the difference is, I am most likely a generation or two plus a few years older than the juggs I can see in the picture here. With that being said, as soon as I was of age, I WORKED very hard and was able to pay for my own health insurance after getting off of my mom and dads. I always tried and still do to never put myself in a situation where some kind of traumatic or life changing injury may occur brought on by a lack of poor judgment from me. I’ve always been the type of person to look at what the consequences may be because of my behavior or who it may affect. I love everyone!! That’s just me and how I am! I may not like them or what they do(and that is within my own family,btw)but if I feel like I’m somewhere where there is possible danger of any kind, I’m outta there!
      Most of the ‘los and ‘lettes want tolerance & acceptance…understandable! We want them to just be responsible for the decisions they make and to pay their own bills. It is a very easy concept to grasp, if only they would. I only know a few people who were born with a “silver spoon” in their mouth(NOT me, dang it! LOL) so to speak. They do NOT appreciate what it is to go out and work hard for what they have. It is an awesome feeling knowing that we have worked hard for how little or much we may have or still yet to come. People must start from the bottom somewhere and work their way up. Take care, stylz..

    • Anonymous

      stylz, I would have a problem if I was refused medical treatment or not taken in a timely manner, without a doubt! I guess the difference is, I am most likely a generation or two plus a few years older than the juggs I can see in the picture here. With that being said, as soon as I was of age, I WORKED very hard and was able to pay for my own health insurance after getting off of my mom and dads. I always tried and still do to never put myself in a situation where some kind of traumatic or life changing injury may occur brought on by a lack of poor judgment from me. I’ve always been the type of person to look at what the consequences may be because of my behavior or who it may affect. I love everyone!! That’s just me and how I am! I may not like them or what they do(and that is within my own family,btw)but if I feel like I’m somewhere where there is possible danger of any kind, I’m outta there!
      Most of the ‘los and ‘lettes want tolerance & acceptance…understandable! We want them to just be responsible for the decisions they make and to pay their own bills. It is a very easy concept to grasp, if only they would. I only know a few people who were born with a “silver spoon” in their mouth(NOT me, dang it! LOL) so to speak. They do NOT appreciate what it is to go out and work hard for what they have. It is an awesome feeling knowing that we have worked hard for how little or much we may have or still yet to come. People must start from the bottom somewhere and work their way up. Take care, stylz..

    • Old Fart

      All I can say to this is, Karma is a bitch sometimes and apparently you or your friends were associated with a particular group which was known for causing trouble and apparently they justified their actions by doing whatever they did!  Not sayin it was right and not sayin 2 wrongs make a right but what I am saying is people tend to react to others in the same way they were treated by the other party.  If I found you broke down in your car and two days before you had called me everything but a white man I probably would drive right on by.  Now is this right?  Nope but I would do it because I wouldnt want more problems.  Not sayin you have done this to anyone just usin an example to show you why they might have done this i trully dont know for sure but if I was a guessin and bettin on anything I would say im very close to why this was done.

    • Old Fart

      All I can say to this is, Karma is a bitch sometimes and apparently you or your friends were associated with a particular group which was known for causing trouble and apparently they justified their actions by doing whatever they did!  Not sayin it was right and not sayin 2 wrongs make a right but what I am saying is people tend to react to others in the same way they were treated by the other party.  If I found you broke down in your car and two days before you had called me everything but a white man I probably would drive right on by.  Now is this right?  Nope but I would do it because I wouldnt want more problems.  Not sayin you have done this to anyone just usin an example to show you why they might have done this i trully dont know for sure but if I was a guessin and bettin on anything I would say im very close to why this was done.

  50. has anyone on this site that it hateing on juggalo and jugglettes ever thought that not only do we love the dark carnival we love one and other cuz like any juggalo will tell u we family and that will never chance no matter what y’all say so think abt that i kno i can count on my wicked clown fam to b there for me can any one say tht bot there fam

    • Old Fart

      Sure can Peter!  My family and friends have been there for me thru many things and I can say that as it is proven!  What exactly have you been though that wasnt self inflicted that your carnie friends have done that was so great?  All we see is what they do that negatively impacts an entire community.  Im sure we would just love to hear of some positive and touching stories you can share!  By the way its not called hating when what we do or at least what I have done is talk about the facts and sorry Peter the facts dont allow me to approve of them so far maybe some of your war stories will clear that up for me…please opin!

      • Old Fart

        guess I was right all he was doin was blowin some steam…he thought he needed to tell all of us that they love one and another….DUH isnt that what started most of the problems termed a Health Hazard…its called to much lovin on one den anudder!

    • Anonymous

      How about your family all getting together and going back through grade school again since the bulk of the Jugg Family that post here have absolutely terrible use of the language? I am not saying that your family members are all dumb or stupid, just uneducated.

    • Old Fart

      Hey Dennis,  Have you heard when this event is this year?  I think we should go and see how nice these guys and gals are.  Bet they would welcome us in with open arms.  

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